2024 August Dual Nationality Petition Open Discussion

Sometimes the truth hurts Marco. Yes some people tell porky pies. That’s human nature. Some people just make shit up and blog about how foreigners cannot become citizens get credit cards or mortgages while all their foreign friends and foes do just that.

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Funny. I don’t feel hurt. I’m confused. Why would I feel hurt? lol

I’m the mod of this forum, Taiwan Politics, you know that, right?

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Well then feck me you really are new here lol

Not me.

Well it’s certainly not how I saw things. Only started becoming aware of things when I decided to try actually living here. I didn’t come with a plan initially lmao.

Shit. Who is going to introduce me delicious aboriginal food when you’re not here?

OK I ask you this. Apart from voting or owning farmland? What is it that you cannot do that I can do in Taiwan?

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My wife. She knows a lot of single lovely lasses and gents up here. But we not allowed to post photo’s anymore it seems.

lol love this response

Not much beyond super obvious things like holding a passport or having peace of mind with rights instead of privileges. You’re right.

But I’m getting older and more tired of the constant bullshit. It’s not that I can’t. It’s that it’s relatively painful, and sometimes (YMMV) impractical. I just can’t keep taking days off of work to run to the city centre to file complaints with the NCC for example or spend inordinate amounts of my time trying to get a phone plan.

SF Express sent my package back recently because they didn’t accept the APRC number as part of my customs declaration costing me $150 US despite the use of my APRC to be not only legal but my right in customs law. That package is stuck in an Ebay warehouse with no telephone number and they refuse to do something or contact the shipper.

It’s been four fucking weeks of their bullshit. DAILY communications with SF Express for four weeks. And I’ve lost money. I’m going to sue.

I don’t have time anymore to argue and push just to do basic adult things. It is frustrating to have to be an ugly version of myself just to do these tasks. It’s constant. Constant calls. Constant letters. Constant writing complaints. It should not be this difficult to do basic adult things.

I just wanna do my thing quietly and not talk to people.

To be honest, if PR was painless like it is in Canada for example, I wouldn’t probably care that much about the citizenship issue.

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Yeah, same as Canada, if you live outside the country and make money outside country you don’t pay taxes on the income.

Lol Phil has a cellphone law too but nobody follows that at all. Seatbelts? Even helmets. Lmao I’ve seen kid between dad legs driving scooter, next kid between mom and dad, and mom holding the baby on the back and nobody has helmets. Wild. Canada they are super aggressive on cellphones especially, and I’ve never even seen a child on a motorcycle there at all (motorcycles pretty rare anyway). Who follows Phil traffic laws? :joy: I’ve been pulled over for plate coding like 20 times. When I started driving heavy tints and no windows down and they couldn’t see i’m white, the pullovers stopped though :wink: because bribing is so easy there nobody really cares much it seems.

I was sideswiped by a non-signalling and non mirror checking car in torrential rain on the highway who cut 2 lanes smh and the seatbelt made it so I had no injuries at all. I hit the median going like 90 because the spin led to hydroplane after the hit. Rental car had bald tires too. It was like a rollercoaster. The airbag didn’t go off either. The car didn’t make it :joy:

Amen. Motorcycles you have to drive like every other driver wants to kill you. Modern cars are pretty safe though if you drive safe.

Where do I sign up? :sweat_smile:

I won’t renounce Canada but i’d do military service no problem. Canada is fairly hard to resume in any way from my understanding.

Toronto one was not a good experience either. They were confused about their own rules and pretty much everyone and the website contradicted each other and would tell me I need this and not that, then no I did need that and not this etc. and in person was different from website to begin with. It was one of the few times in my life I actually felt discriminated against and I wasn’t sure why either.

I’m listening… :slight_smile:

I’ve looked into it, it’s not too hard but not too easy.

It’s not really a thing.

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I’ve looked heavy into it. It is hard. Unless something changed or it’s one of those laws where practice is very different than the code? Any case examples?

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Gov says: “If you renounce your Canadian citizenship, you lose all the rights and privileges of being a Canadian citizen and will have no status in Canada. This means that if you wish to return to Canada permanently, you will have to apply for a permanent resident visa.”

When I did research years ago it seemed basically would have to become stateless or show mental break or some kind of pressure or extreme circumstance but I never looked into case law or couldn’t find any readily available, I forget.

All anecdotal evidence I could find online seemed to suggest, like the law, it was pretty much irreversable.

SF Express are useless I will not accept any vender using them to send packages to me. Why? They don’t deliver to my address insist I drive 2 hours to their pickup place. So its DHL or Fedex or EMS.

Changhwa telecom do phone plans and APRC holders do not need a guarantor.

I didn’t have a choice in this. I wouldn’t choose them either if I can.

It’s been four weeks of daily calling. I’m just so tired.

I definitely won’t be giving up. I’m making their lives miserable for breaking the contract and costing me money.

It’s not a citizenship issue the issue is only SF Express. Change to another logistics carrier. Thing is DHL uses 7/11 so you can collect or send from any 7/11. Easy peasy, even for foreigners.

This was before. I’m happy that it has finally improved. I took five days off of work to go to the NCC because APT wanted the guarantor for a plan that had no contract.

And if you were wondering, I won.

I just don’t think I need to waste five days of salary to get a phone plan.

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Well over 160,000 foreigners married to ROC citizens have renounced and become citizens. Not so hard to do is it? That’s why there are so few JFRV APRC holders.

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No you didn’t. But you did. You didn’t take no for an answer.
You are not a mushy immigrant who wails and moans and does nothing to help themselves. You win.

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I know. But if we want to demushify the others. We have to be a little bit nicer. Just a bit.

I documented my journey here too. When we changed servers, we lost the screenshots.

Telling them they are crying is a bit harsh. We want to encourage others that they CAN do something and they CAN stand up.

That’s just my opinion. I think we can do better with positive reinforcement. I think it’s more effective.

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Not just your opinion. I think many people find @anon24369109’s attitude counterproductive.

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