2024 August Dual Nationality Petition Open Discussion

Earn?

Rarely.

Good to see you acknowledge that. It’s how I came to own a licensed immigration agency in Taiwan that helped many immigrants get PR and citizenship for other countries. Another part of my business was helping people get student visa’s as well. My company had a policy that any client refused a visa other than for failing a medical or police / character assessment got a full refund of any consultancy fee. I also consulted to other companies in Taiwan as well.

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Yeah I met the criteria to naturalize with renunciation without being able to resume or get Australian PR at the time, not have Australian citizenship for over 13 years, and gain an EU citizenship a few years ago as well. Such is life.

When one applies for US citizenship the applicant is not asked about their financial background, they only need to meet the residency and a character check and be processed which takes around 12 months.

If I had wanted to I could easily have moved to the USA as there is an annual quota for Australians to apply which is under utilized. Not my cup of tea is the USA. Nice place to visit for a short trip then leave.

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What’s with this misinformation that keeps getting repeated? He became a citizen over a decade before resumption was introduced…

When it was enacted, did he rush out and get it? No. He still waited a few years.

He did own an immigration consultancy firm for many years. He did also work as a consulate officer for the Australian Embassy in Brunei…

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Just curious. My wife earned hers. I know lots of immigrants in NY who earned theirs as well— lots of Iraqis actually. The Afghanis are coming due. Totally earned it.

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lolz is it a raffle prize or do you win it by playing bingo?

Well they are all people of means right? Loaded with assets and cash. Surely poor refugees can’t get citizenship? :rofl: :rofl:

Fee waiver – Submit with application for naturalization

  • There is a fee waiver available for individuals who cannot afford the filing fee and qualify.
  • Eligibility:
    • You, your spouse or the head of household living with you, are receiving a means-tested benefit. (A means-tested benefit is government aid provided to those who can prove their income is below a certain level, i.e. food stamps, medi-cal.)
    • Your household income is at or below 150 percent of the Federal Poverty Guidelines.
    • There is a financial hardship that prevents you from paying the filing fee.
  • Form I-912, Request for Fee Waiver, must be submitted with the N-400 (Naturalization Form) in order to qualify.
  • Include ALL documents (copies, unless otherwise specified) to prove eligibility with application.
    https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/fact-sheets/Fact-Sheet–Promoting-Citizenship-for-Low-Income.pdf
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I work in a traditional industry here (傳產) and met for drinks with a big shot in the industry last night. I mentioned this petition to him and he said he could get us however many signatures we need.

But I don’t think it’s the kind of signatures we want. :laughing:

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Is that like the guy from Pingtung who went to jail for “finding” piles of signatures for Terry Guo’s presidential run? :neutral_face:

Guy

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Um…I didn’t pry any further.

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How on earth is this unique to the US?

This is how immigration works in every country.

The US isn’t special

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But according to Americans… Everyone dreams of emigrating there… Explains why I had so many American classmates at school in Brisbane…

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For this type of petition to work, we need TAIWANESE signatures. I’ve got a hundred ish taiwanese citizens to sign up a couple weeks back. Will send out another mass copy paste soon enough. Not enough though. If a few million signed an inceedibly annoying online form, it will matter. It’s not about foreigners on a foreign forum. Its about people talking and spreading word. Information is key. So is compassion and passion for equality. I mass emailed/line about 250 people inside of an hour about this petetition a hundred or so messaged back and talked about it positively. It’s not hard. I feel a better force and more organized effort is needed, but this is so far the best thing that’s happened so far in regards to this double standard and public attention. So support it. Evolution starts with a germ

The fun thing is how the arguments here seem to be skipping over the important point. Taiwanese need to care. By that i mean voters, by proxy: citizens. It will also be selfishly beneficial to them for this to happen which is he real dumbfounding part about why more don’t care.

My bet is ignorance. @Malasang88 is right, awareness needs to be spread. Call it education, but in reality ethics and intelligence. This benefits taiwan more than foreigners, if done. Same as math, health and driving skills. It’s everyone’s responsibility to improve the country.

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I had a Taiwanese chap I have known for 20 years who I do business with come to my place yesterday. At lunch I brought up the naturalization process and how ROC citizens could have dual citizenship elsewhere but immigrants had to renounce to get ROC citizenship. I didn’t tell him about the TARC that slipped my thoughts.

Yes he had no idea. Why would he, firstly it’s never come to his attention and it’s not like Taiwanese are looking up naturalization laws. Those who do want to naturalize might look for workarounds, like resumption, or doing a @fifieldt and applying to get dual citizenship without renunciation. Not sure if you would meet those requirements.

Asked him to consider signing the petition and pass it around.

I’m off to Taipei today to have dinner with one of the organizers of the Media event for the petition. Doing my bit here and there as a good caring Taiwanese should do lol

I’ll only drop NT$10k for my one night in Taipei adventure to help out.
Can I get anyone to go fund me for that?

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Which Americans? These ones?

The United States has long had more immigrants than any other country. In fact, the U.S. is home to one-fifth of the world’s international migrants. These immigrants have come from just about every country in the world.

That data do not look right to me. We know that the vast majority of migrants and displaced peoples in the world is in the countries in the global south.

Guy

They might be those and not be immigrants. There are differences.

Write it off as a business expense.

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