Still, garbage in, garbage out. Hate crimes are not well documented or consistent, especially against Asians. I would be careful taking too much from the data on hate crimes.
The recent violence seems to be a different deal, most of them would probably not be documented as hate crimes.
What makes you say that?
Federal laws to start documenting hate crimes started in the 90s, which is where you starting point is from your post. Itâs up to local LE on if they even want to participate in documenting hate crimes, a significant amount of local LE donât. Even those that do participate in documenting them, it seems the majority report 0 while some quite a few. So we donât even know if the ones that do make an effort to do so. Itâs rather strange some places has 0 and some places have many, very inconsistent. Some local LE has reported 0 hate crimes since the 90sâŚ
Doesnât seem like a good data set to work with.
For our purposes though, if they are underreporting, are they underreporting hate crimes equally for all races?
If some are reporting zero, then it means theyâre underreporting for all races.
Canât say. How they collected data is very inconsistent is my point. And even more so when you consider self reporting of crimes. Iâm guessing Asians living in poor minority neighborhoods donât report as much. And as Iâve mentioned before, quite of bit of my encounters of racism are actually from other Asians. Iâm not sure how often those kinds of hate crimes even get reported.
My guess is the percentage of hate crimes against Asians is probably rather proportional to racial populations. And itâs probably going to depend on where you are. Iâve encountered virtually no racism in middle income to upper income places from whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians. Iâve pretty much only encountered them in poorer areas where uneducated whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians live.
Thatâs all relative. Itâs only about 15 cases a year over the period. They note themselves they had trouble just gathering enough data to get any kind of meaningful result, and they had to make allowances for it. But, Iâm not saying itâs meaningless. Iâm saying itâs in line for expectations from the population as a whole (whatever that proportion was from 1992-2014, donât forget, and however âwhiteâ was defined in every data item).
Also you keep using present tense but itâs significantly in the past when weâre talking about a new situation now. Weâll need data about whatâs happening now. Despite the anecdotal evidence (something that study seems specifically intended to argue against, a potential bias problem), I wonât be surprised if things are broadly in line with population numbers in the end. But I have seen a lot of anecdotal evidence and continue to, so not sure. Another question is where crime ends and hate crime begins and how much it matters.
Old women, disabled man attacked in separate incidents on consecutive days outside of a church in Oakland, CA.
What fâing sad state of affairs.
Anti-Asian racism has been prevalent in US and other western countries since colonial era w/Yellow Peril fear mongering perpetuated by Sinophobia which continues to this day, hence the incessant anti-China rhetoric by western msm.
Expect these attacks to increase if delta variant or other virus mutations continue to deprive Americans of their âpersonal freedoms.â
Attacked or robbed? Looks like thieves waited for the easiest victim. Your description makes it sound like they were attacked because they were Asian.
What is the anti Asian angle here?
Elderly Asians are seen as ideal victims by muggers because theyâre relatively wealthy, less likely to fight back, and have a preference for cash.
Yes, not necessarily. But thereâs a good chance theyâre being chosen because theyâre Asian. And in many urban areas in the U.S., thereâs been long-standing animosity between blacks and Asians.
Iâm sure those guys would steal from their own family. Are they black? I couldnât see their faces.
They might have been targeted because they carry cash etc but surely this thread is talking about attacks for no other reason than race, not robberies between races.
Otherwise we must say that if you steal from an old person, youâre ageist, from a woman and youâre sexist, etc etc.
Yes.
I get what youâre saying. The attacks could be racially-motivated (because of the factors I mentioned above) rather than racist. Or the fact that the victims in both cases were Asian could be a coincidence, but I think the chances of that are relatively small.
The attacks were in ChinaTown. So, likely targeted to people in the area for the reasons Milker said. The reporter also said they were driving around many places. Still a fâing shit move.
A law that was passed in the 1800s, which was completely eliminated fifty-six years ago?
Thatâs funny, since blacks are more likely to be killed by other blacks. Especially considering that 56% of murders are committed by blacks. Itâs hard to beat an outright majority.
According to this FBI data, of the 2,491 murders of black people reported in the U.S. in 2013, 2,245 perpetrators (90%) were black and 189 perpetrators (7.6%) were white.
But do tell us again how blacks âare more likely to be killed by whites!â
A large part of the problem is âwokeâ DAâs refusing to press hate-crimes charges against blacks, thereby distorting the percentages of hate crimes. Mean words by a white guy = âhate crimeâ, being beaten to death by blacks = ânothing to see here, these arenât the crimes you are looking for, move along, move along.â
Ask the Koreans and Chinese about the Japanese some time, maybe?
Look at those white supremacists wearing blackface! Thatâs cultural appropriation!
Itâs not. Itâs about violent attacks against Asians. These people are deliberately targeting Asian people leaving church. Indeed, they probably would steal from and injure their own grandmother, but who cares why they did it anyway? They did it. It just shows how stupid the idea of âhate crimesâ is basically.
Itâs âCrimeâ vs âreally bad crime.â
Makes no sense.
Crime+
Crime*