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In the last election in 2019 the NDP won on the B.C. coast up to Alaska, Nunavit (eastern North-West Territories), northern Manitoba and northern Ontario- you know, places where the weather is -40 and where the loggers, fishermen, and miners are all trust-fund hipsters.

They’re are also very popular in first nations communities in those areas

Ironically, they are also loggers now haha.

Ps im from the coast

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Cool, I spent a couple years on the island. It’s definitely a different kind a life out there

Don’t forget the NDP’s history in Alberta. When they won the Provincial election in 2015, I literally choked on my coffee while reading the news.

From Wikipedia, notice the swing in their fortunes;

  • The party served as Official Opposition in the Legislative Assembly of Alberta from 1986 to 1993. It was shut out of the legislature following the 1993 election, returning in the 1997 election with two seats. The party won no more than four seats in subsequent elections until the 2015 election, in which it won 54 of the 87 seats in the legislature and formed a majority government. Until 2015, Alberta had been the only province in western Canada — the party’s birthplace — where the NDP had never governed at the provincial level. The Alberta NDP was defeated after a single term in the 2019 election by the United Conservative Party–the first time that a governing party in Alberta had been unseated after a single term.*
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Yep, and after the price of oil dropped coupled with a gross mishandling of Covid, Alberta is wishing they had them back.
They just won’t say it out loud :laughing:

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In my family, for as long as I can remember and regardless of what party was currently in power, the government has always been referred to as, “Them cocksuckers up in Ottawa”.

Then you know that loggers have mostly been NDP since it started. Health care and pensions among other socialist concepts.

I remember in 1967 when (Pierre) Trudeaumania was sweeping the country, he was waving from a convertible to the crowd in very NDP New Wrestminster- and was greeted with stony silence. My father said “well, he is the Prime Minister, after all” and gave a few reluctant claps, to the frigid glances of his neighbours in the crowd.

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If you look at that last election seriously, you would see that most resource extraction within the Province is done in the interior, which went for the other party in a big way. Where did the NDP win big? Wealthy Vancouver, the bohemian Gulf Islands and new age Vancouver Island, where the services industry far, far, far outweighs the minimal forestry, mining. and fishing (and has for decades – cottage industries on coast vs multinationals in the interior). Most blue collars in the Interior don’t vote NDP anymore because they know their high-paying union jobs are tied to energy, pipelines, logging, etc. Same reason Saskatchewan is now just as right wing as Alberta (different industries there of course). The interior riding in BC my family used to live in has changed from being solidly blue collar NDP to solidly blue collar Lib. The island riding where I have lived? Orange as they come. :smile:

The party of teachers, trust fund hipsters and new age types that believe Jesus wore Birkenstocks: perfect description of Salt Spring Island is it not? :laughing: :laughing:

Not disagreeing. The provincial BC NDP have done a nice job doing nothing to protect old growth. More of the same. The taiwanese and japanese temple folk also quite like them…

I voted green last time and have been well disappointed with the green ndp alliance.

But provincial and federal parties are quite different.

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Seriously?

Everywhere? When you win 57-28 it’s hard not to.

Ah yes, wealthy Vancouver-Hastings, as opposed to Vancouver Qilchena (south Point Grey)

Which actually voted Green, not NDP

by which you mean all Vancouver Island, except bohemian Cowichan and Saanich North and the Islands, which both went Green.

Salt Spring Island is actually part of the riding of Saanich North and the Islands which went Green, not NDP.

Since this post shows you know absolutely nothing about the geography, demographics, or economy of B.C., I’ll consider this closed as far as further discussion with you.

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You think the NDP won big in the interior? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: I got one riding wrong but you can not seem to understand a map!!! 2020 British Columbia general election - Wikipedia

Vancouver has pockets of depravation that always go NDP (East Hastings) but my point is the NDP won a number of previous Liberal ridings in North Van, False Creek, etc. Most of these NDP gains were Vancouver ridings —highlighting my point about it now being PRIMARILY an urban Party for trendy professionals vs. the rural blue collar base where it used to gain solidly union-based interior towns. In the last NDP majority in the 1990s under Harcourt, interior towns like Kamloops were dually represented by the NDP but have now remained dually Liberal even when the NDP is in power. Why? Resource based union jobs that are afraid of the NDP and its love of “not in my backyard” or NIMBYism. Lots of family members with million dollar beachfront that want mills to close and hate ships being in the harbour.

You are right about the Green Party in that one riding but it still fits into the stereotype does it not? These are left wing seats that would either go NDP or Green.

I know absolutely nothing? :laughing: Right back at you.

Drunken Duncan for the win, green power!

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I am quite ignorant about Canadian politics. I only see Mr. Trudeau in the news like once in every few months. And I was shocked when I saw him again in recent news.

What happened to him?

When he had to choose between his voters and his values, he chose his voters. Somehow, I still prefer it to the last guy…

Is that so? Then respect!

This story has already been discussed on this thread just above.

You guys aren’t interested in the historic genocide vote?

I see. Sorry about that. I will take a look.

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