taiwan will not follow US guidance on 5 day quarantine for omicron cases because some have been found to be infectious 12 days after positive tests.
Dentist Chen showing Fauci who the boss is. Getting upstaged in medical advice by a dentist. Whats Fauci on about with the not infectious after 5 days thing then?
First guys out of the box were out of hotels I think on December 21. So yeah itâs started.
Guy
The US is in a totally different space than Taiwan. Namely:
The US does not have the legal means to enforce quarantine or isolation. Itâs total honor system, with atrocious rates of compliance (if I recall correctly, estimated to be less than 30%); and
The USâlike much of the rest of the worldâis being overrun by cases. They need and want workers back on the job, and feel the extra infection risk is tolerable to get this done. In Taiwan, there is currently no need for this, and no appetite for it either.
In short, totally different situations.
Guy
17 had a Ct level of 30 or higher, meeting the standard to be released from quarantine.
So a ct value above 30 and you get released from quarantine?
So the people that tested positive when entering a hospital/going abroad in the past who had high ct values didnât have to quarantine?
Itâs a matter of probability. The â14 daysâ thing came from an observation that a very small percentage of infected people (something like 0.1%, IIRC) still tested positive with the original strain(s) at 13, 14 days. That doesnât mean they were still infectious of course, but jumping to unjustified conclusions is par for the course in our âfollow the scienceâ world.
So: on the assumption that 1 in 1000 genuinely infected people might test positive at 14 days, and you have (for the sake of argument) a million people arriving by air over the course of a year of whom 1 in 1000 develop COVID during quarantine, you have a single chance of an âescapeeâ during the year. Given Taiwanâs zero-COVID stance, thatâs one too many.
Omicron seems to burn out somewhat quicker than the original variants, but Chen is invariably six months behind the international research. I doubt he even reads most of it.
thatâs what I mean, I heard you can test positive after X amount of time, but not be infectious, but according to Chen you can.
Yeah, he really does seem to just make this stuff up. This is, after all, a country where âdonât drink cold waterâ passes for sound medical advice.
OTOH I wouldnât trust Fauci as far as I could kick him. He just makes stuff up too.
My wifeâs friend works for EVA freight and she says all the employees got 14 monthsâ bonus. 1.5mllion NT in her case.
It is nice that the company recognized their efforts. Vilified by society, separated from their families, constant stress added to an already stressful job.
Imagine quarantine after quarantine after quarantineâŚreally messed up. And we really need them.
It is not as glamorous as it is touted nor all pilots are bed hopping jerks.
Its all of the EVA Freight people, so those people who work on the apron in the heat and cold loading aircraft get a good bonus too, for what has been an extremely busy year or so for them. The freight has kept EVA afloat and no doubt CAL as well, good that the workers get a slice of the cake.
keep freaking out in taiwan
It seems to me that if complications and deaths are low overall, and vaccinations/previous infections are relatively low, then humans (or at least South Africans) have naturally robust immunity to omicron.
0 + 41 = 41 and no deaths.
41⌠my god. Omicron is a beast.
Wow. The 25 yesterday already seemed high.
Iâm glad the university semester is ending in a couple of weeks. I hope everyone enjoys our virus-free status while it lasts!
I canât do lockdown again⌠
I am psychologically not prepared for a return to level 3 or 4.
Daily life, Iâd be OK, but I donât have kids to worry about. Teaching online, ugh. Itâs manageable but the semester never recovered from that start - all of my classes have slightly âoffâ chemistry this year.
A couple of months ago I thought we wouldnât have a lockdown (or whatever it should be called) again, but now, when I look at that lower vaccination rate amongst the elderly ⌠I fear itâll happen. Infuriatingly and unnecessarily.
Donât panic, its all in Quarantine. (And hopefully doesnt leak out).
Oh, not panicking, but the higher that number, the more the risk points. It is coming here eventually - itâs just a question of when.
Not so much panic as an âAh f*ck, here we go.â
The vast majority of todayâs cases appear to be caught at the day 0 test, which is good news. The earlier the better