It exists
This lockdown doesnât seem to make any sense! yet again it does!
You omitted that part in bold
I didnât notice it to be honest.
And I donât understand your point.
Are you saying there should or should not be a lockdown ?
Because itâs clear that the hospital system is working well still.
And that just would not be the case with an out of control pandemic in Winter right ?
I donât understand yours either.
Point being for and against lockdown it appears not to work, yet hospital admissions are ok so must mean does work.
Isnât that the whole point ? That a lockdown reduces infections and frees up medical resources ?
I canât believe you and your son question that.
You rather no lockdown and wait until next year probably ?
Whatâs your point ?
Airlines flying payloads of small tubes is the easiest thing in the world for them to accomplish. Show me a professional company that gets an order to deliver the exact same thing throughout the world (meaning: easy logistics as your planes are all setup for one purpose), dont need to make anything, and have governments around the world begging you to deliver (aka, paid on time). Those petty drama queen princesses should shut it and be gratefull for the contract work they are getting. The way airlines are acting now with all their petty and greedy BS publicity stunts makes think southparks comedy on a rape machine being easier than airline travel might just be spot on the mark 
Just deliver the damn things, get paid well and be thankfull you dont work with the nightmare that is Canada Post.
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Thank you for sharing.
Guy
That argument makes no sense. Businesses donât ordinarily shut down en masse. Old people do, however, die. Itâs what being old means.
The destruction of a business is not a trivial thing. Itâs a tragedy every bit as large as a human death. The owners, who might have put their entire lives into the enterprise, will live out their twilight years in much-reduced circumstances. The employees have to go seeking other jobs ⌠which donât exist, because businesses are shutting down. âHuman capitalâ and intellectual property is lost forever. The stress of unemployment (coupled with âlockdownsâ) leads directly to domestic violence, depression, ill-health, and all sorts of other serious stuff.
Funnily enough, we hear very little about what old people think about all this. I assume theyâre being told to sit in their chairs, pay attention to daytime TV, and STFU. Their voices certainly arenât part of the mainstream commentary.
Iâm glad you understood my sarcasm, as I responded to the discussion of the âharvestingâ of people as allegedly natural.
Cheers,
Guy
Sorry, you completely lost me now. Iâll go and read it all again to try to figure out what was going on there.
The situation in the US is starting to take shape, with vaccinations possibly starting as early as this month.
A panel of independent experts advising the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in a public meeting on Tuesday voted that health care workers and residents of long-term care facilities will be the first to receive the long-awaited coronavirus vaccine.
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The vaccine will be made available across the UK starting next week, a spokesperson from the Department of Health and Social Care said in a statement. More details will be released soon, including advice for priority groups like the elderly and health care staff to receive the vaccine.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/02/uk/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-uk-intl-hnk/index.html
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An update from the authorities in Taiwan:
Guy
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According to the health minister, Taiwan has already signed an agreement to purchase 10 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine from an international supplier, which will add to the nearly 5 million doses it has guaranteed through the COVAX allocation program.
Does anyone know which vaccine(s) theyâre intending to use here? I thought the locally developed vaccines like the Medigen one were expected to start being properly tested in the first few months of next year.
The concerns are directed in particular to the following points:
The formation of so-called ânon-neutralizing antibodiesâ can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, âwildâ virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.
The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.
The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance â this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.
The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in the narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing the late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless, BioNTech/Pfizer apparently submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020.
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Letâs not forget Gatesâ tracking microchips, too!
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I donât see any reason to halt the studies. That doesnât make any sense at all ⌠as long as the people enrolled are fully aware that theyâre testing something that has never been used before on humans.
At least there are a few voices pointing out that shiny new tech doesnât always work entirely as expected.
Not entirely a problem, I suppose. Itâd temporarily fix the problem with overpopulation.
The proper definition of an effective vaccine is not widely accepted by researchers, clinicians, and the media.
Effective at preventing all strains of Covid19 viruses found in various regions of the world? Effective at preventing serious symptoms upon contracting Covid19? Effective at preventing any potential viral spread among infected individuals? What the term effective means different things to different people.
Would anyone feel safe to travel, visit open space without wearing mask after administration of vaccination? Which brand ( country of origin ) of vaccines are more suitable for certain population? Would you feel comfortable with vaccines manufactured in China, Russia, Taiwan, USA, UK, Germany, or other parts of E.U.?
Covid19 would still linger around for years without greater than 70% vaccination rate among worldâs population. It took decades to wipe out Small Pox. Polio, Mumps, Rubella, Tuberculosis is still around today despite availability of vaccines.
The Covid19 vaccines better work, as this is the only hope of returning to normalcy. The world is watching as UK and USA starts to vaccinate high risk individuals next week. If any bad side effect surfaces or infection rate continues to rise despite vaccination efforts. The world is bound for the greatest depression ever recorded in history.
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A report I posted on the other thread said the vaccine will only relieve symptoms.
Honestly, I think that if the vaccines donât work as planned, the media will just stop covering Covid and move on. Testing will stop. People will still keep getting it but you just wonât hear about it. Out of sight out of mind.
Remember when Fukushima was in the news cycle daily for months until they decided to stop talking about it. Humans quickly forget and go back to watching the kardashians, we have the attention span of a squirrel