Global Warming VI

This is where are ‘leaders’ are at.

Mike’s parents didn’t love him enough to teach him things.

Seriously, what?

That is possibly one of the dumbest cartoons ever posted here. If fossil fuels went away tomorrow about 90% of the planet’s children would die.

Practically, the kid’s life depends on fossil fuels - food, transport, housing, and so on, even the kid’s clothes, shoes, shampoo, hairbrush, hair tie, etc., likely made from fossil fuels.

Also, imagine if we had “loved our kids more” during the pandemic! :point_down:

Pfizer covid vax has polyethyleneglycol, Moderna has methoxypolyethylene glycol, both derived from petroleum.

More on petrochemicals and medicines, etc.:

Preventing Infections

  • Petrochemicals greatly reduce the risk of nosocomial infections, which are infections caught from pathogens from other patients, hospital food, and insufficiently sterile conditions.

  • Doctors and nurses wash their hands (a lot) using petroleum-based detergents.

  • Even hand sanitizer contains petrochemicals, in the form of carbomer polymers and glycerin. Disposable gloves are made of latex, vinyl, and nitrile – all petrochemicals.

  • Disposable syringes, bags that hold blood and saline, and tubing are all made of plastic.

  • Disposable masks, intended to reduce infection of both patients and medical personally, often consist of synthetic polymers.
    Basically, plastics and polymers make aseptic techniques easier and much more affordable than they would be using glass and cotton. Glass and cotton still have their place, although washing them still requires detergents.

Getting a Diagnosis

  • Quick, reliable diagnostic tests rely on petroleum. Pre-packaged assays, urine specimen contains, and Vacutainer tubes for blood tests are often made of plastic to minimize breakage and cost. Polymers act as the substrate for many simple tests, such as urine test strips and pregnancy tests. Chemicals embedded in plastic react with compounds, typically producing a color change. In the past, X-rays and other images were printed on plastic films. Most modern diagnostic imaging relies on computers, which are made in part using petrochemicals. If you get an MRI, you should know the machine is cooled using liquid helium, a by-product of natural gas production.

  • Petrochemicals cumene, phenol, benzene, and other aromatics are used to make not only aspirin, but also penicillin and cancer-fighting drugs . Ultimately, most drugs are organic molecules made using petrochemical polymer. Those that are not are often purified using petrochemical resins.

  • Sterile plastic bandages are of the most familiar medical treatments made using petroleum. Waterproof bandages and non-stick dressings also owe their effectiveness to petrochemicals.

  • Traditionally, a cast to set a broken bone was made using cotton gauze and plaster of Paris. Today, modern casts may be made using fiberglass. Fiberglass, a composite made of glass and plastic, is waterproof, resists shattering, and weighs less than plaster.

  • In the past, if you had to get stitches, the sutures were made of silk or cat gut. Modern sutures are often made from a variety of synthetic fibers. Non-absorbable stitches may be made of polyester or nylon. Dissolving sutures may be made of polyglycolic acid or polylactic acid. Sometimes the fiber is coated with triclosan (synthesized from petrochemicals) to reduce the risk of infection.

  • Newborn infants with respiratory distress may be given surfactant therapy to help them breathe. Some surfactants come from animal sources, but synthetic surfactants may be made from oleochemicals and petroleum.

  • A patient with coronary artery disease may have an angioplasty to restore blood flow through a blocked artery. Basically, this involves inserting and inflating a balloon at just the right point in the blood vessel. High-pressure balloons in the medical industry are made using silicone or latex.

  • In the past, if you were hard of hearing, the best you could hope for was to use an ear trumpet to collect sounds. Modern hearing aids are electroacoustic devices that perform (and look) much better. Hearing aids rely on custom fitting to the wearer’s ear, which is achieved by molding them out of plastic.

  • 3D printing helps medical professional model organs, tumors, and blood vessels. It is also used to make prosthetic limbs for amputees. While scientists have been able to make prosthetics from other materials, using polymers cuts the expense and allows for precise customization of an appendage.

  • Looking toward the future, artificial polymer skin may make it possible for prosthetics to sense pressure, restoring the sense of touch.

Source: Petrochemicals in Medicine

But, then again, all that medical waste adds to … globoiling! Such a vicious circle :frowning:

A few other items made from fossil fuels:

Those radical leftists at NASA are at it again, pushing their crazy woke agenda with . . . stats and graphs.

Sept. 2023 was the hottest September in NASA’s temperature record, GISTEMP, following monthly records in June, July, and August.

September was also the largest temperature anomaly on record and continued a long-term warming trend due to human activities.

Source: https://twitter.com/NASAEarth/status/1712847716877783269

Guy

"…NASA’s $22 million request for diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives in the Office of Diversity and Equal Opportunity.

“I strongly disagree with this Administration’s obsession with misguided woke policies related to climate change and diversity, equity and inclusion. Administrator Nelson, America cannot afford to take its eye off the ball with the rising threat of the CCP [Chinese Communist Party]. There is simply too much at stake. President Xi and the CCP are hell bent on dominating us on every front. We must be laser-like focused on our approach and I can assure you that China has no interest in out-DEIing us and they’re not intimidated at all by this divisive radical policy that’s found its way into this budget.” Sen. Eric Schmitt

How do they define “woke”?

And SpaceX. Working together to solve globoiling.

"The Falcon 9 uses a fuel mixture of liquid oxygen and simple kerosene, and while the oxygen does not do any harm to the skies, the black soot created by the burning kerosene is injected directly into the stratosphere—the layer of air ranging from 12 km (7.5 mi.) to 50 km (31 mi.) above the Earth. There the soot lingers for up to five years, absorbing heat, contributing to climate change, and damaging the ozone layer, which exposes the planet to dangerous ultraviolet (UV) radiation. And SpaceX is not remotely alone.

According to a study by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), global rocket launches (of which there were 180 last year, the study notes) inject about 1,000 tons of soot into the upper atmosphere per year. That will only get worse, NOAA warns, as the industry continues to expand. “The bottom line is projected increases in rocket launches could expose people in the Northern Hemisphere [where most rocket launches take place] to increased harmful UV radiation,” environmental scientist Christopher Maloney, the study’s lead author, said in a statement.

Upvoted for inclusion of record setting months recently recorded by NASA. That’s science.

Your political statement unfortunately belies the fact that global warming has become a spoke on the wheel of intersectionality and far left religion where any expression of doubt towards any aspect or any proposed solution is met with an immediate shut down of discussion under a torrent of insults like “science denier”, no matter how hair brained the proposals.

Goodness. It must be important because it’s got a glow effect on it.

So what’s your point here? What does their computed time series mean? Is their computation sensible? What are the policy implications? Can we infer from this chart how many asteroids we need to bury in the rainforest, or whatever the latest proposal is?

Here’s another chart that you can use to practice asking relevant questions. No, I’m not trying to derail the thread: I’m encouraging you to ask “what’s wrong with this picture, if anything, what information can/cannot be derived from this, and is there anything that can be done about it?”. I think you’re more likely to invest the effort in something you already believe is false.

That’s a hell of a list, @FairComment. Unsurprisingly there has been no appreciation for the amount of research you put into that.

As for the (oil-enabled) COVID response:

As @afterspivak pointed out, it was highly irresponsible to waste so much resource on saving the lives of selfish 80-year-olds, at the expense of the younger generation.

Finally something we can all agree on. :blush:

My views on this issue are consistent and clear. Let’s just say they do not align with the gross misrepresentation posted here. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Guy

Your views are neither consistent nor clear, and I spelled out why they are not in the temp thread.

Hypothetically, how would governments have done what they did in 2020-23 without access to oil, and the vast wealth that oil generates? How would a “decarbonized” economy have been capable of making and distributing masks and vaccines, and locking everyone down?

Come to think of it, maybe this decarbonization thing might have an upside. It’s hard to run a digital control grid when the only computers we have are made from stones on pieces of string.

Taiwan is known for hot springing, a fun, and relaxing activity to partake in, set in beautiful scenery. Unfortunately, climate change effects have left Yang Ming Mountain National Park’s hot spring pools high and dry this fall season.

The UN estimates that 74 percent of Spain is in the process of desertification. The regions Almeria, Valencia, and Andalusia are the most vulnerable. If left unchecked, by 2100, most of the southern half of Spain will be desert.

Did you actually watch the video? It correctly identifies the source of the problem as destructive land management, not “climate change”. Southern Spain is an extremely brittle ecosystem that depends on tree cover to maintain a ‘water conveyor’ from the oceans to inland areas. Without it, everything falls to pieces. The Romans did exactly the same thing to North Africa; it went from a relatively green and prosperous place to a desert because of the introduction of the plough and temperate-climate agricultural practices.

Blaming this on climate change is the perfect excuse that the government needs to ignore a tractable problem and pretend that it’s too expensive or complex to do anything about.

I used to watch this guy’s TV shows when I was a child in the UK. His knowledge of botany was mind blowing and before the Internet age. I was surprised by his views on climate change.

Crackpot now, pity because he was an incredible scientific educator, maybe the best for kids ever.

Wow, so much confirmation bias on show in this thread…

Bellamy’s dead.