How Amateur Sleuths Broke the Wuhan Lab Story and Embarrassed the Media

Most folks in the media don’t have a good understanding of the science. Its complex and even for the experts that can make the wrong conclusions sometimes e.g. those scientists who assumed no engineering or lab manipulation of SARS CoV2 occurred just because it didn’t match a computer model even though it has a perfectly adapted human ACE2 receptor binding protein .

When the media cast around it was easy to find some scientists who poo pooed the idea. Add in a dose of anti Trumpism…And a slight desperation not to be seen as racist …This is what you get.

I think also that people around the world realise after one year just how easy it is for this thing to transmit from person to person. I mean it’s ridiculously transmissible . So a lab leak isn’t far fetched at all if one person gets it…It’s easy to see how it spreads so fast from the lab to the city.

I guess the other factors that have been mentioned are China’s obvious intransigence to allow investigation, and folks aren’t so fooled or blindly trusting of the WHO charade anymore.

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That’s not all he said, just what supports your ahem…conclusions.

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Really looking forward to an article that fully breaks down the facts of that funding.

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Weinstein has been on this for a while. @DrewC posted one video at least a little while back.

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You know folks, sometimes everything is actually NOT about the former US president.

I don’t know if this is appropriate, but perhaps we could actually look at the topic of the thread, and if you like, you could continue discussing the perceived merits of the former US president in one of the umpteen threads available for this purpose in IP?

Your non-US forumosans will thank you. :slightly_smiling_face:

Guy

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I tried that. And the response was like that of the softly shifting Sahara sands. :slight_smile:

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Forumosa can be like that.

You’re a good one Charlie. Take care!

Guy

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Thanks! I don’t know if I’m good, but I know you are.

Be safe in these times!

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You seem to have glossed already again here @mups

Nope, I’ve already said it’s fair to question individuals if there’s evidence of corruption. For example WHO heads, possibly.

There are a lot of scientific experts on planet earth. Just like there are lots of doctors. But some doctors malpractice, so do we go turn to mechanics for medical advice?

That kind of water-muddying is ideocracy level. It’s part of recent obvious political efforts to delegitimize career experts in all fields, replaced by, I guess, youtubers, forum posters?

Intelligence, judiciary, scientific, name the field, there’s been a steady drumbeat to confuse society over who should be taken seriously, more specifically that nobody is worthy of being taken more seriously than someone else, even experts.

The very definition of stupidity, a version of socializing opinions. Which is fine if they’re only opinions I guess, but the problem is when one opinion is rooted in evidence and one is rooted in conjecture and speculation.

The conjecture crowd in what I’m describing is happy to cherrypick an example of corruption, for example, in a sea of professional experts, to paint the entire group as such. Meanwhile of course the non-experts remain non-experts on the whole, which is just…obvious.

It’s politically driven, an attempt to draw equivalency between experts and non, and it’s bad for progress.

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I think the only one propping up this crow bait is you.

Well, I’m in favour of expertise and a believer in experts. That said, have you looked at the first post in this thread? The entire point of this thread is that a group of mostly non-experts accomplished something quite incredible. I’m not saying what you said about mechanics and doctors (that is patently ridiculous), I’m just suggesting that it isn’t as simple as it seems to appear to you.

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I think you should pay more attention to patterns if not only do you not see it as a very real thing that gets promoted, but characterize it this way.

Also, your meter is up, too many comments unrelated to what I’m actually talking about.

Hope we can chop out about the last 30 posts :neutral_face:

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That’s literally what I said. Either outcome is evidence of CCP negligence/coverups, whatever. That’s irrefutable.

Beautiful head of hair on that man!

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There’s red flags everywhere pointing to China’s planning efforts. For example:

This Wiki tracks China-US direct flights expansion over time.

Particularly, this last minute expansion approved by Civil Aviation Authority of China raised eyebrows:

2019 Expansion
On February 13, 2018, CAAC approved [China Southern Airlines] application for direct service between [Wuhan Tianhe International Airport] and [New York/JFK] to begin in June 2019.

Chinese government has since deleted the links to this information from the CAAC site.

This one is for the stalwarts of reason.

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