I think maybe you misunderstood. I meant precedent to the current war. As in why it started. How it started. I.e., not precedent to the current situation of why Ukraine is defending itself. Itās obvious that Ukraine is defending itself against the Russian attack.
Now Iām sure this is a very unpopular video (all the American liberals have told me so), but this guy canāt possibly be full on wrong. The only way to think that is this:
My point isnāt whether he is wrong or not, however. My point is that there are multiple perspectives, and which one is right or wrong depends on your own biases of which narrative you want to buy and which narrative you want to discredit.
Well, thatās also one way of looking at a human being. As to the human being writing this post, sometimes when my me-me-me-me engine dies down to a dull roar, I begin to suspect that Iām little more than a bag of assorted biases, and changeable ones at that.
But I gotta function somehow, and much of the time it seems my biases are just about the only tools I have for that job.
Was not always the case and certainly not so if parents are not ROC citizens and children are born here. I prefer you say dual or multi citizens. Anyway all children are mixed dna one half from the mother one half from the father.
Yes, they did. So did Britain and Ireland, Britain and America, Germany and Alsace-Lorraine, Japan and Korea, etc. So what?
No. Ukraine had been annexed by the USSR. So had many countries- Byelorussia, Kazakhstan etc. So what?
No. It was part of the Russian Empire. So what?
4.There were incursions by Russia, Germany, and the Soviet Union.
5.Yes, there have. Only one country has invaded Ukraine.
At least you realize all of what you just said. Many donāt. Thatās why C.G. Jung once said, āPeople donāt have ideas. Ideas have people.ā
Very interesting āfood for thought.ā
If the parents are ROC citizens and children are born here, they inherit citizenship AFAIK. If I donāt apply for citizenship for my own children, they will stay stuck with only being Taiwanese.
They may not be in power, but they are a party that has some influence over things. Why else does Taiwanās flag continue to use KMTās logo? DPP could change it. Do people not realize what that sun/star thing means?
No, not anymore. It used to be. Thatās the point.
So what: The ties (depending on how you count them) go back no more than ~10 years or, at max, ~32 years.
Analogy: Make this type of argument against a black person who feels āracism.ā Tell him that many countries around the world (esp. Africa) have slaves and that modern slavery is still a thing but not a thing that heās had to ever experience. Then say, āSo what? You still got a house. You still got a job. Would you prefer to be in chains?ā
Annexed by the USSR. And before that? What was Ukraine? What government did it had? When did it get its first passport?
Forever in the past? At which point in history did Ukraine appear as an independent country? Give me the year.
Only? Why do you make no mention of Poland, Lithuania, or Turkey?
And by your line of thought, all that matters is invasion. Right? Then at which point will you not consider the U.S. not a role model considering its many covert attempts at overthrowing foreign governments? Or is this a bygones be bygones sort of thing like in the 1st point?
For mothers to pass on citizenship to their children since 2000 when the law was amended. Before that only from the father being an ROC citizen. As you are recent to Taiwan you are not aware.
Yes, for three years Ukraine was āindependent.ā An incredible achievement that didnāt last because Ukraine decided (pretty sure they werenāt coerced into it) to join the USSR. Also it wasnāt a war specifically with Russia that it fought when it wanted to be independent if you look carefully. But good point, nonetheless.
Yes. Right. Soā¦ Ukraine has had a total of ~38 or so years of independence as a country compared to other places that had hundreds of years of independence. And for some reason, we should entertain the idea that Ukraine has always been a sovereign state with a sovereign identity? Personally I donāt agree with this line of thought. Itās weird.
I didnāt know that, but Taiwanese law is very clear that if youāre born here and one of your parents is Taiwanese, you automatically acquire citizenship without question. Thereās no way to say ānoā to this AFAIK.
So what? It does not matter when a country becomes independent. They are sovereign independent countries. When did Malaysia become independent? Or Singapore? Or Brunei?
What about Kosovo or Slovakia and Czech Republic?
You seem to allude that is right for Russia to invade Ukraine because like Putin you question Ukraineās right to be a sovereign independent nation.
I donāt believe thereās universal consensus that this was a staged genocide, though. From what I know, there really isnāt full consensus. Did it happen where Ukrainians died? Were they targeted? In some sense, yes, and so were many others across the USSR. I donāt think that Stalin had a personal vendetta against them. Iām not aware of any documents suggesting that Ukrainians must be wiped out by starvation the way of Hitler. Read through here if you donāt believe me, and if you got something better to show me, go ahead. Iām all ears.
I learned something about Taiwan that is quite useless in my situation. Itās not as if I could go back to pre-2000 and choose my progeny to not have Taiwanese citizenship.
The problem with those is that they had a long history of independence prior to their colonization. Youāre comparing apples to airplanes here.
No, what I seem to allude is that no one has the sovereign right to claim sovereignty overnight ājust because they can.ā There needs to be a basis for it. You think ALL of Ukrainian land is Ukrainian? Exactly how do you think Ukrainian borders were drawn up? Also, Iām not aware that any of the USSR joiners had ever been forced into joining at gun point the way youāre putting it. They signed a treaty, and they willfully decided to secede from the USSR (Republics of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia). These countries pre-USSR were essentially absorbed with some sort of agreement/acceptance into the USSR. We know this from things like Hofstedeās six cultural dimensions of nations (https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=orpc):
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Give me the proof that they were coerced. Iām sure some could have been, but anecdotal evidence or opinion =/= unbiased fact.
Your argument, if I may distill it, is that all of this was in a vacuum where one country acted on others and the others had zero agency. Interesting but IMO horribly misguided and lacks basic understanding of how governments work. Not even all the shit that the US did in South America was one-sided. Maybe in your world it is though, and all of the South American countries that suffered under US interventions are victims. I donāt know what is going on in your head.
I never said I agreed or supported Russiaās invasion. Also my like for Putin has nothing to do with what you think it does. I like Putin for different reasons that you wouldnāt understand. As always, I recommend people to read books on him. You can start with this article and this book. You can also discredit (as you and many others have done) any and all academic researchers because their research and views donāt align with yours. Thatās OK. Continue being yourself. No one is here to change your mind. Just showing you that itās not all as black and white as you believe it to be. The world doesnāt work as one large circle jerk of harmony.