Kaohsiung burger wars

Got me once

What do you like about the experience?

The several times I’ve been there, I also thought the burger was pretty good – off the top of my head, probably the best or close to the best I’ve had in Taiwan – but the place is too small, congested, and harshly lit for me to much enjoy the “experience”.

If it were several times bigger with more comfortable chairs (or maybe even booths) and some beer options (or even milkshakes) rather than only generic soft drinks, I might enjoy it more and stick around a bit, but in its current format I kind of just want to eat my pretty good burger and leave for somewhere more…gemütlich.

Good service, good music

So many places here don’t do table service, a lot of the time I feel like I’m inconveniencing the staff just by showing up; but never at Webberger, they’re actually friendly

Or another one that really gets me is going to a place only to find that they’re randomly closed (another reason I prefer to cook at home). The simple fact that they’re open when they say they will be keeps me happy.

Smokey Joes is a good counterpoint. I recall waiting almost an hour for my food, being told it was because of the fries, and then getting cold fries in addition to a burger that tasted like the meat was off. Not a good experience, but yeah the restaurant looks cool

Kaohsiung has set the bar low

Other places like Beast or Bottoms Up maybe have a larger and more trendy interior, but if I want a burger that’s not where I go

I don’t go there to hang out. Don’t really hang out anywhere, anymore. Is there anywhere good to hang out in K-town?

Fair enough. Yeah, I recall the staff being friendly but don’t remember the music that was playing when I’ve been there (which probably just means I didn’t hate it).

Maybe it’d just be nice if they had more seating, so I wouldn’t feel in a rush to finish and clear a table for the next customer.

Hip hop, but sorta old-school underground. I don’t recall recognizing any tracks but i like it

Fair enough, it could be bigger and a more cozy environment. At the same time, there might be a compromise on speed and quality

Milkshake sounds good. I’m sure i saw one somewhere in town, but where?!

It’s a toss up between Arkansas Diner and Bottoms Up for me. I’ve had their burgers there several times and there’s not much between them. Arkansas uses (to the best of my knowledge NZ beef) and Bottoms Up uses USDA beef… there’s a hole in the Wall joint just off San Duo 4th road called Good Rolling that deserves more attention. It’s opening hours are a little inconsistent but prices are reasonable

Has McDonald’s upped their burger game? I passed by a McD’s and a guy was sitting by the window eating a burger and it looked much better than in the past. I haven’t had a McDonald’s burger in at least a couple of decades when they used to be thin, greasy patties on overly moist buns. The one I saw this guy eating had what looked like a decent size, thick patty with good looking lettuce and tomatoes and a decent bun. Just curious, has McDonald’s introduced a gourmet burger or something?

Yes

Certainly better than decades ago, but still pretty meh in my opinion. the newer BLT looks pretty good, the wife likes it.

@TT any suggestions for proper western style.BBQ burgers in ktown? Preferably smokey style :slight_smile:

Nope, sorry!

I don’t know what exactly a BBQ burger is, but if you’re looking for Southern style BBQ brisket or pulled pork sandwiches, then Arkansas Diner has them.

EDIT: Wait, are you talking about barbecuing the hamburger patty? Arkansas Diner has burgers too, but I’m not sure if they BBQ them. Usually you save the BBQ for real meat.

Ya, exactly. bbq, on a grill with smoke. not a pan, iron sheet or gas grill. typical outdoor charcoal/wood fired bbq like I. the US or Canada. I really want to share with some friends that style of burger if possible :slight_smile:

edit. Yes, ground beef patty. it’s not high end meat, but the flavor is exactly right :slight_smile:

Then you can’t go wrong with Arkansas Diner. Even if they don’t offer BBQ burgers (I think they do), they still have BBQ brisket, pulled pork, and ribs, which are 100x more impressive than BBQ ground beef patties.

As a general rule, I agree with this. Never had a bad meal or a bad experience. And they have pie

In my quest for the best burger in town I only had one there, which was decent but I think if it had been wood/charcoal grilled that would have stood out

If they cook their ribs etc. over wood/charcoal, that would be awesome, but I’m skeptical because they have an indoor second floor kitchen. An electric oven would be more sensible

I usually go there for biscuits, and pie

I smell meat cooking over charcoal around town sometimes, but I never stop to track it down. Anyways, I know they do it for local foods. I should make the effort because I also grew up with an outdoor BBQ in the summer and it does make a difference

I did get a little portable BBQ thing for camping, big enough for a pile of charcoal and wood and a few burgers at a time. Just haven’t had time to try it out yet

I wonder if those are yakiniku restaurants you’re smelling. I’ve been to a few places here that use nets over charcoal, but I don’t remember which. Maybe Yakiniku Shojo? Or maybe it was Showapark next to Hanshin mall.

Yeah you’re probably right about Arkansas Diner. I’ve only been there once and didn’t actually order any BBQ meats, so I can’t say.

Changing the list format again because most of these places I only had one burger quite a while ago and don’t want to discourage their prospective customers. My review(s) can be found up thread. I might alphabetize that list.

Would also be interested to hear from other people who have burgered at these places recently and think someone deserves another chance at the title :slightly_smiling_face:

Reigning champ
Webberger: Every time I go there, I have a great burger and experience.

Contenders
none

New
TGI Fridays: The toppings were nice and fresh, patty was ok but a bit dry, bread was a bit cakey. Service was fantastic, but the food didn’t live up to the price tag.

Coulda been a contenders (in no particular order)

  • Sizzling Burger
  • Beast
  • Lovss Burger
  • Burger Patty
  • Murk Bar
  • Monster Burger
  • Bottoms Up
  • Tec Burger
  • T-Fusion
  • Arkansas Diner
  • Lighthouse
  • The Plus Star
  • Nobichon
  • MMB (Hanshin)
  • Oxford
  • Smokey Joes
  • Legends
  • Foster Hewitt’s

Honorable mention

  • Yaletown: Try the smoked meat sandwich. Wow
  • Mon Poulet: The chicken burger was fantastic

I agree with all of that. But specifically wanting burgers. everyone I want to take has had steak, pork etc. I mean burger, wood fired smokey bbq madness. that is what they havent had yet. I could cook it easily at home on bbq for them, but the idea is to have a “go out for a meal” vibe :slight_smile: it creates a different, well, everything for them.

Sure it isnt just people bbq at home? people do the charcoal bbq at home year round. There are also loads of charcoal bbq joints everywhere. many are all you can eat. the all you can drinks ones are dangerous! But their meat is usually the cheap stuff (thin sliced), usually whole or balls or the thick things are usually fish or chicken. I have yet to see a place clean enough to handle ground beef for a bbq grill that is DIY. for good reason. but I would love to find a place that does use wood to fire up burgers for their customers!

Family went to burger king last month. I have to say, breakfast shop and nightmarlet burgers are superior!

Tends to be in areas with street food stalls

This is my list, how about yours?

Reigning champ
Webberger: Every time I go there, I have a great burger and experience.

Contenders
Fabao: Great location, great service, great bun. The Doritos keep the toppings from making the bun soggy, I think. Aside from the Doritos, nothing seemed French except the marketing (that will appral to a certain group, I’m sure). The patty consistency was great, but overall flavor was lacking. Fries were great. I wasn’t particularly hungry when I went, I think it is worth a second visit to try again.

New
Fabao (contender)

Coulda been a contenders (alphabetical, reviews upthread; everyone has a bad day so try them yourself and let us know here what you think!)

  • Arkansas Diner
  • Beast
  • Bottoms Up
  • Burger Patty
  • Foster Hewitt’s
  • Legends
  • Lovss Burger
  • MMB (Hanshin)
  • Monster Burger
  • Murk Bar
  • Nobichon
  • Oxford
  • Sizzling Burger
  • Smokey Joes
  • T-Fusion
  • Tec Burger
  • TGI Fridays
  • The Lighthouse
  • The Plus Star

Honorable mention

  • Yaletown: Try the smoked meat sandwich. Wow
  • Mon Poulet: The chicken burger was fantastic

@TT I just had lunch at Weburger. WOW!

You can go ahead and mark this thread as “solved” and close it now. :joy: