Meet the anti-woke left

“Which part of trumps politics can you say engages with ethno nationalism?”

This is a good and fair question and I have to run to the grocery store ATM. Not avoiding it…

later

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from wiki:

"Christian nationalism in the United States manifests itself through the promotion of religious art and symbolism in the public square, such as the displaying of the Ten Commandments.

The ideology also advocates for public policy to be supported by religious beliefs, such as enshrining the sanctity of life in law through the buttressing of the pro-life movement."

the rest of Wikipedia’s take on your Christian nationalism is extremely small in numbers.

The two quoted lines above appear to be the main theme, so what’s dangerous about that?

Here’s something completely surprising except actually not: Republicans are the main purveyors of Identity Politics.

https://psmag.com/social-justice/republicans-https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/pops.12485-the-main-purveyors-of-identity-politics

"For those that hate identity politics, stop engaging in them.

“…fewer than five percent of white Republicans who indicated that their racial identity was of little importance supported Trump. Among those who said their identity as whites was extremely important to them, Trump’s support reached 81 percent.”

by stopping to give credence to the crap shown in the WP or NYT or Fox you mean ?

I linked 3 articles, 2 not from the NY Times. Did you bother to read them?

If you don’t bother to read things from sources that don’t pander to what you want to hear already, that’s your issue, not everyone else’s.

Is this addressed to yourself , re: the people whom disagree with you on here ?
Think about your response .

its addressed to you.

Yesterday i cited a libertarian website (Reason.com) and Real Clear Politics. Both right wing.

It’s addressed to you, based on your previous comment. How about reading the articles first?

Two of the links do not work, well I get a 404 message ?
The NYT article is utter tripe, from the people desperately trying to encourage “identity” politics…saying that many white Trump supporters “identify” with their colour , which is a reason for the solid support .
If you want to win in the long term , you need to realize that the only thing many of those voters “identify” with , is their own lives and ensuring that they have opportunities to be successful and can put food on the table without worrying about supporting the many poor of the World first.
For those who may have higher morals , then volunteer , donate, all good …but the reality is that riding on a ticket of AOC, Bernie, Kamala or Booker policies will result in a probable loss in the election.
I hope you continue to support the GND, Reparations, Free everything, Open Borders et al, if that is what you believe.
Then , after losing , perhaps the Dems will realize it is time to get realistic .
I think Shakespeare summed up the current far Left pretty much :wink:

“Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”

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If you’re deep enough to quote Shakespeare you’re deep enough to read an article first before making your mind up on something.

“Think’st thou that duty shall have dread to speak when power to flattery bows? To plainness honor’s bound when majesty falls to folly.”

Kent in King Lear (1.1.164-167)

Perhaps you would check the links?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/pops.12485

both working here on this end. The Times piece is as well.

Not sure why But I get 404 … I will keep trying

Seriously , did you further your politics over there ? Not having a go … just wondered if you pursued it further ?

you must have your ‘liberal media’ filter on.

have a good day

Gotta find schools for my kids and do basic setting up first. Catching up on rest and hanging with fam. Something tells me if I do ever go down that road you guys will be the first to know. :slight_smile:

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Are you discussing my ideas or your own cardboard cutouts of them?

I never once said I support reparations.

I never said I support the GND. I said the ideas in it like universal health care, affordable college tuition, environmental protection are pretty standard ideas. Just because I’m not emotionally/ knee jerk rejecting it as socialist without even once looking at it doesn’t mean I “support” it. You see the difference right?

I never once said I support or oppose open borders. I’ve never even discussed that topic here.

I’m not a big supporter of any of these dems. I can read pieces from the national review and consider their ideas. I’d rather stand on my own two feet rather than emotionally decide on something out of a need to be part of an in group. This identity politics driven mob mentality isn’t the way to fix anything.

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King Lear is indeed appropriate here. This is a family squabble write large.

The takeaway here is that the woke are being thrown under the bus to save the rest of the left. Just like they did to poor Trotsky.

Who are ‘the woke’? Is this another term like ‘virtue signaling’ or ‘globalists’?

All this jargon that kind of sort of refers to groups that seem to exist only in the minds of people writing about them. Who are you referring to exactly?

I think that is the definition of support is liking most of the content …you just argued that these ideas are standard , when they are just extreme in the main .
You cover yourself , or try to , by including caveats and changing words like free college tuition …to “affordable”, and using environmental protection , instead of the GND proposals ( many of which you said were just “the packing” that was at issue)
Either own the damn thing …or say it’s sh*t…but you will just evade the fact that you support most of the radical ideas …but ooh the language is too overboard …giving you plausable deniability…common sense …ohhh yes please …words that are contradictory.
There are 3000 posts in the AOC thread many of which contradict what you are implying …perhaps you need to have a recap on what you posted .
Have a good one

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. You need to get out more.