Russia invades Ukraine: General Discussion 2023

Any updates on the 500000?

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Reminds me of another phantom Russian army from past history (though the jury is still out on this one)

So canā€™t trust MSM, believe Russians?

Canā€™t trust Russians, trust the BBC?

Trust nobody, the Russians who say there are no war crimes are lying, and the Russians who say there are war crimes are lying?

It is all so confusing, I wish someone would just tell us what to think!

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You never know in a situation like this. You can be sure this guy will be grilled and maybe never fully trusted as it is a classic disinformation technique.

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It says he has taken evidence with him, so it will also depend on how well this stands up to scrutiny.

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and now you can be like your grandfather and fight the nazis for the glorious russian front. A chance to take down the Evil western empire, NATO.

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For sure. The simple fact that he comes with evidence is a red flag. He could well be legit though. It can be difficult to be certain

If you where planning to defect wouldnā€™t you gather evidence to support your claims if you had access, simple things like camera footage, copies of orders, anything you could get your hands on, not really a red flag as I would also expect it the other way also.

Now if he turned up and claimed to have a declaration from Putin to nuke Kiev, that would be a red flag.

I would if I could, sure. But, I might not be able to get anything useful, it might be too dangerous, I might think me being a Wagner unit commander would be enough, I was on the run, I might be somewhat more concerned about being executed by sledgehammer, etc. Youā€™re right though, not really a red flag, but it would be expected from a plant. Hopefully our security agencies arenā€™t too addled from trying to stop people from posting jokes on Twitter or compiling diversity checklists to figure it out effectively.

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From my understanding the Norwegian military is pretty on the ball, letā€™s just see what comes out that can be verified and try and tune out the scuttlebutt.

ā€œFree Syrian Army brothers on the way to fight against Russians. May Allah protect you!ā€

Do you think the proverb ā€œgreater evil should be warded off by the lesser evilā€ is appropriate here?

The US is the largest provider of military assistance to Ukraine, having committed $20 billion since the start of the Biden administration. But do you think Taiwan should send military assistance to the Ukraine like other countries do?

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Absolutely. And yet here we are. the same for china on taiwan, and yet, here we are showing weakness. It is hard to watch a slow motion landslide!

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North Korea fighting Ukraine until the last russian. :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob:

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More thanks donā€™t equal more tanks:

Recent remarks by General Milley:

Gen Milley estimated one of the frontlines was similar to the distance between Washington D.C. and Atlanta, or about 1,000 kilometres in length.

ā€œThat is a significant amount of territory and in that territory are still remaining a lot of Russian forces in Russian occupied Ukraine,ā€ the 64-year-old military officer warned.

ā€œSo, from a military standpoint, I still maintain that from this year it would be very, very difficult to militarily eject Russian forces from every inch of Russian-occupied Ukraine.ā€

ā€œThat doesnā€™t mean it canā€™t happen, doesnā€™t mean it wonā€™t happen but it will be very, very difficult.ā€

ā€œGen Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and principal advisor to President Joe Biden and the Secretary of Defense, flagged the leader of the free world and many European leaders believe the only way the conflict will end is through negotiation.ā€

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Assuming those things are true, it is because Russia hasnā€™t collapsed and Putin isnā€™t dead. Yet.

Like thise 500000 Russian troops, they havenā€™t come, yet.

You bring this up on occasion, I recall reading 300,000 had already joined ranks a month or two back. Not to all reinforce the fighting but some would and some to do logistical support, CNN also referenced that number a few weeks ago, although I couldnā€™t be assed at the time to try and dig into the link.

Up until that point the Ukrainians had apparently been breaking through Russian lines and doing damage where they were sparsely spaced out and then doing some damage and returning back to the Ukrainian side, that sort of attack more or less ended with the influx of new troops. Apparently.

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That figure was stated in the last iteration of this thread, not by me. Iā€™m curious to see if it happens, in which case a mea culpa will be in orderā€¦