Interesting.
UK ‘donated’ depleted uranium going up in smoke, perhaps:
I watched up to turning on their own, which isn’t really news and what happens with Wagner remains to be seen.
Mariupol, that might be a goal for the offensive, but there is still the problem of attacking fortified positions. I still think it’s gonna be tough for them to make gains like last year. Maybe these are probing attacks of further feints?
We haven’t heard about those Leopard tanks lately, but I guess the F16s might help when they show up
Different donors use different systems, and are limited by what they are willing and able to donate
Don’t think they wanted a victory, but rather analyzed the situation more correctly than mainstream media, which is just gobbly-gook.
What I see, Prigozhin can turn his troops back. He has nothing to lose. He sees Shoigu’s ministry of defence as bonkers. He has called the chief Putin: “счастливый дедушка (schastlivyj dedushka)”, the happy grandpa! He does not give a shit about anything, he has nothing to lose…
Thank you, yes, I am interested the truth is accurately represented which is why I pushed back and questioned the MSM that Russians were on the run a week or so ago.
It’s true there were counter offensives and Russia had withdrawn from those areas, to an extent, but that wasn’t the larger picture, even while that was happening Russia was still pushing forward in the central offensive.
It was an obvious propaganda push and there were claims the Russians would soon be surrounded when reality looked like they had been slowing progressing towards complete occupation of Bakhmut for months and looked close to finishing it off.
I almost didn’t post the question “are we sure Russians are on the run” because I knew the response from some posters would be to attack me for questioning the narrative, which happened and then a week or so later when it now looks like the original narrative doesn’t seem in such a good light the same poster is here again accusing me of getting what I want.
It’s why I rarely post anything that is counter to the MSM, much of the best discussions and thoughts are to be had there, but it’s not worth the predictable attacks it will involve by some of the posters on here.
There are different news sources with different viewpoints. Seems there are some positions Ukraine still holds and some they dont.
Pretty sure they still hold some, maybe not in the city but in the outlying parts. CNN as of yesterday was still talking about the possibility of surrounding the Russians in Bakhumt, which seems delusional to me.
I had said 3 weeks it might take to see an acceptance by the West that Russia is in control of Bakhmut, it’s been about a week since them and CNN is still of the opinion the Russians will be surrounded any minute now. It’s Baghdad Bob levels of denial.
I’m not quite sure of the propaganda value of claiming Ukraine are winning if they aren’t, especially if it will be shown they aren’t within a matter of weeks. I suppose proponents of continuing to support Ukraine don’t want people to think it’s turning into a long unwinnable war, which is presumably Putin’s hope.
My guess is both sides are currently making small gains in different places. I’m surprised the Wagner group are performing as well as they are (assuming they actually are) given the quality of most of the troops they have. Just goes to show how threatening to shoot your own troops can be a strong motivator to attack.
Do you know they are not just taken from prisons and handed a gun?
Most are ex-military.
No, I don’t. Do you know for sure? You seem very confident.
Russia has claimed long ago they had taken it, and since claimed to withdraw. Denial is belief at this point 
And they get live fire practice with real humans in Africa!
All men in Russia have to do conscription, so they all are kind of ‘ex-military’.
Most convicts in Wagner finished conscription unless they were imprisoned at young age.
In Ukraine Wagner forces are about 90% recruited convicts.
Not sure what you are saying here, do you think the Russians are running with their tails between their legs and will be surrounded by the Ukranians any day now?
Or, what seemed to me more likely and with confirmation of sorts coming from Zelensky that Russians have over run the place and some fighting may still be going on in the outskirts?
edit/ The Independent as of about 20 minutes ago are still going with Ukranians are about to encircle the Russians.
I’m saying we can’t believe anything at this point, and to think otherwise is to deny the truth that both sides misinform and propagandize.
The headline says “aims”, big difference