Sen. Bernie Sanders says he's running for president in 2020

They don’t see that the carrot he waves in front of their faces is tied to the trigger of the gun pointed at their heads.

I think most of the Democrats will rally behind him, but not close to all. He’ll likely lose Florida, he’ll likely lose some purple states that Clinton won in 2016.

Split ballot voting is a real thing, too. I think that if Sanders is the nominee then no matter the POTUS result, the Dems lose the US House, retreat in the Senate, lose governorships on net, and lose state legislatures on net.

Pyrrhic victory at best, a catastrophic loss at worst. :idunno:

Genuine question. No trickery. No problems.

I don’t live in the US. I can’t verify this for myself. Do you have any proof of this sort of support for violence? I’m just curious.

It’s been cited and linked to ad nauseam above, in this thread. I dug some earlier today and linked to it, not doing it again. You can google sth like “sanders iowa project veritas gulags” and you should see some of it on page 1. Duckduckgo might be better. Afraid I’ve become somewhat indifferent to supplying it since it’s always ignored.

Ok. Thanks. It’s a big thread.

Maybe this?

I don’t really care personally because no one can be responsible for every nut.

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I understand, I’m just curious about this. Thank you.

Project Veritas is a partisan group that publishes investigative news pieces, usually involving hidden camera spying on Democrats. For that reason it’s often ignored. Unfortunately they’re nearly the only news org doing investigative journalism of any stripe that benefits conservative points of view, so there’s that. The guy that runs it, James something, is obviously a zealot. Pretty clear when he speaks. Nobody has ever accused him of faking his videos, though.

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James O’Keefe, IIRC.

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well…
California is a socialist state per se anyway.
Not surprising.

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I have to wonder how valid it is to extrapolate from Dem primary data to all voters in any state, but yeah it probably works pretty well for California.

Just to be clear, it’s only targeted tax incentives (i.e., narrowly tailored for a deal with one company only) that did not work out well in Wisconsin. I assume you’re still in support of general (ie, non-targeted) tax incentives to attract new economic development?

Also saw that a South Korean manufacturer will build a mfg/assembly plant in my old neck of the woods. This is a far smaller deal than Foxconn. Virginia has agreed to “only” $1M in targeted tax incentives (unclear what the dollar quantity of the benefit is expected to be).

The Foxconn case is definitely an odd one. Lots of international companies like Navien want to make direct foreign investments in facilities near a good US mainland harbor, for obvious reasons. Foxconn might have had access to Lake Superior and eventually the St Lawrence seaway, but that would add days to export times. Would seem less than ideal unless the incentives were very good indeed.

Anyway, point being that making such investment near a deep water port is def an example of using an area’s native advantages, and winning despite no big targeted deals.

Also, keep in mind that if Sanders were to win the election, this deal and thousands like it would be less likely. How much less likely is unknown, but making direct foreign investments is not popular when those investments are made in nations where tax authorities are exploring ways to confiscate 20% of all equity, and where workers and possibly even Koreans may be subject to a US Federal tax on wealth.

Ergo if Sanders wins the Presidential election the US is a socialist country.

Wasn’t all bad.

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I can’t wait for the new Socialist States of America.

‘aint nobody coming in here gonna take away my single player insurance over my dead coronavirus body’

‘our blood runs red’

What? Not sure what that has to do with my picture.

Nothing but the future sure looks fun.

This is part of what’s so nutty about Sanders’ appeal. “Of course Nazi Germany was bad, but at least the Jews had new housing, guaranteed for their lifetimes.” :crazy_face:

Looks like the anti Trump is picking up on the majority socialist vibe there. Just wait till coronavirus hits, he will be a ‘flu’ in.

Cowboys in Texas too. I blame it on all the soy lattes.

And that’s Texas now in the middle of economic prosperity and good times !