Iâm not saying you believe in the patriarchy. Just that this concept is the same used in the argument.
Thereâs been a recent push to say there are no differences between men and women. Idk if youâre following the recent trend of trans athletes competing in the womenâs group and just destroying them. One trans fighter broke a womenâs jaws. 2 trans brothers destroyed the womenâs sprint competition, recent push to allow trans to be allowed to compete in high school sports as the gender they changed into. Idk where your stance is on this. But I know there is a difference. I played against our division 1 womenâs basketball team on the practice squad. My 13-14 year old team could destroy them tbh. And we werenât even like an elite team.
I think itâs far more likely society developed into the way it is because itâs what we are inclined to naturally. Itâs hard to believe men pushed half the worlds population into roles they all hated to be.
Read the whole post dude (I invested time in it, believe it or not). Make life benefit you.
Tbh youâre making me question the nature of this discussion, and if it goes down in a way that isnât constructive or fun, Ima quickly lose interest.
Gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that youâre having a shitty day.
First time Iâm hearing this. Not a big fan of political debates, especially online. Only time Iâll do it is in person with a Guinness in hand. If I canât look straight into your eyes when youâre making bold polarizing political opinions, itâs not gonna happen at all.
On the surface level it doesnât seem fair. But also, considering there are short men and tall women, I wouldnât object to separating athletes by weight classes. Put Ronda Rousey in the octagon with another male fighter her size and weight. Iâd pay for that PPV.
I literally donât understand what youâre upset about. Iâve not attacked you, Iâve not said anything in a passive aggressive way. Iâve stayed on point.
What are these negative generalizations you seem to be so upset about? Are you thinking Iâm attributing negative generalizations to women and positive generalizations to men? Because thatâs not the case.
Your post showed that you did not even read the 2nd half of that long considered post. Itâs evident in that many of the replies you wrote were already addressed later on in my post.
Itâs a weakness, but I hate repeating myself.
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Yeah, weâre in agreement here. This is why Iâm still investing some time on the topic.
I read it. I understand confirmation bias and self fulfilling prophecy. They are real. But they also go the other way around for cognitive biases.
I think youâre unhappy with some of the common behaviors I wrote I see in women like gossiping and back stabbing. Here is a better way to describe it. Women are on average more agreeable and less confrontational. Which can be a great attribute in some circumstances since itâs not always great for the group to disagree harshly all the time. Nothing will ever get done. It can be bad as conflict resolution can result in less confrontational means like gossiping.
Men are less agreeable and more confrontational on average which can be very negative. But I would say men do better because we understand confrontation can be dangerous and violent. If you want to get into a confrontation with a man, you better be prepared. Most of us live more sheltered from where this is more prevalent and laws kind of keep us in check. But I think most of us understand the social dynamics of being with a group of guys. Animal hierarchy often show the exact same thing.
Here Is a article listing many of he personality traits of men and women score on and studies.
These days many feel itâs just nurturing and how the system is that cause these differences. But there have been many studies done on early infants that show differences between gender as well. For example girls learn languages faster early on, boys react more happily and more angry to things. Thereâs many if you want to look into them. One in particular is interesting where infants were given trucks and dolls. Boys on average spent more time with the trucks and girls dolls. But itâs not like boys didnât also play with the dolls and the girls didnât spent time with the trucks. They just spent more time with one of the other. More interestingly it also is the case when they gave dolls and trucks to infant monkeys.
So basically, what Iâm saying is. Gender is not the only thing that makes up a persons identity. But I truely believe itâs an extremely important part and the science seems to back it up. I donât believe itâs a social construct and there is a important role gender plays on our personality from all the research Iâve seen.
in my world, men like these things too. Iâm surprised if you donât know it. Though back stabbings are not norm as it wasnât in my high school, some of men do a lot of gossiping and back talking as some of women do.
in my daily life, generalizations donât help unless subjects are mass groups. I can find some common tendencies among people categorized in certain groups, but for my individual relationships, individual differences affect much more than averaged tendencies, and generalizations are almost useless. Cultural or religious generalizations work sometimes.
Yeah, doubt that. Of course itâs more than just height and weight, technique is a major, key factor. And sheâs proven she has that.
Btdubs, just for context â youâre talking with someone who is friends and has trained with Helio Gracieâs grandsons, and on a few occasions, his sons.
Itâs more than just technique, although that is incredibly important. Weight distribution, muscle density, bone structure, and aggression through hormones. A man of equal height and weight to a woman will be more powerful in a fight.
That may be true in âcivilianâ scenarios, but weâre talking professional athletes with full on training camps. Not to mention the money and stature of Rousey allows her to command a substantially more extensive team of staff, medical included, coach, sparring partners, nutrition. But medical and access to the absolute top tier sparring partners for regular training is probably the biggest one. Probably only McGregor has that level of team backing him.
Also, and this is big: go back and read up on or YouTube some of HĂŠlio Gracieâs most famous bouts. There wasnât even such a thing as weight class back then. You have like maybe three rules: no eye gouge, no biting, no low blows. Royce in UFCs 1-4 also dispelled that notion. Sure those things you mentioned are factors. No doubt about that. But there are def more bigger deciding agents to consider. Check em out.
Also to consider: speed, agility, reaction time, innate talent. Amount of aggression from not just hormones, but anger. And the level of want (which sadly is probably what she definitely lacks right now, so long shot of her returning to the octagon).
Same weight, training, technique a male will beat a female. Look at powerlifting. The best woman can lift just under 8 times her body weight. The best man over 10.
we are optimistic that any difficulties in communication between men and women are due primarily to cultural norms that are amenable to change, rather than to differences in basic personality traits, which are much more difficult to change.
Second link:
Even though the boys spent more time looking at the truck than the girls did, they didnât necessarily look at it more than they did the doll.
That just means boys look at the presented objects longer while girls dart their eyes to check out other things, outside of the truck or the doll. Maybe their parents. Maybe the researchers. Maybe the light switches. Who knows.
Girls tend to look at the doll more than they do the truck, but individual girls didnât. In fact, the results varied wildly from child to child, with some unable to produce any data
See, each girl is wildly different. To âaverageâ each of their attention spans out seems disingenuous and misleading, and most importantly, plain wrong, since youâre attributing an average of âwildly variedâ results to one person.
Your article ends with this conclusion:
While these studies may shed some light on the differences between two groups of people, theyâre unlikely to contradict the obvious: Weâre all individuals.
âVenus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the worldâs top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. ⌠He first took on Serena and after leading 5â0, beat her 6â1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6â2.â
Pointing out errors and pointlessness in negative sweeping generalizations on behavior based on a sexual organ
There ya go.
ActuallyâŚ
Iâm going to sound like a douchebag for seemingly contradicting myself here.
Among the most âdifficultâ (I say that in quotes) people Iâve met, statistically speaking have turned out to be women (sorry ladies). If Iâm recalling memories, Iâve statistically found the women Iâve met in my life harder to please than the men.
But I donât hand wave that away ask, âoh, a bunch of asshole women.â Thatâs just my luck of the draw, because certainly Iâve met plenty of kind womenâway more than Iâve met the bad ones.
Again, at the risk of being a bigger motherhumpinâ doucheâŚ
Among my closest friends and colleagues, the ratio here tilts overwhelmingly male. Maybe for obvious reasons. But statistically speaking among the most agreeable people in my life, now that I think about it, have been male. Thatâs not to say I donât have a few lady friends who are incredible people. But all my friends, sprinkled with a couple of female presence but for sure mostly and largely male, are all chill AF. No confrontation, just chill vibes.
Yeah. Like I said Iâve never had issues bringing shit up with my male colleagues or friends. Weâre all straight shooters. With female friends on the other hand (damn, really hate to be a dick â sorry ladies), it now seems like I would hesitate⌠or just brush away. When I was a kid (weâre talking kindergarten to like 6th grade), I was always low key nervous talking or playing with girl classmates. Among the entire class those particular girls just seemed so much smarter than me lol. Like they got more important shit to do than climb trees and catch bugs with me. Meanwhile me and my bros sit around playing exploding juice box land mines. It was dumb.
But I am also smart enough to recognize and acknowledge that it was a small ass sample size and my experience is not the Godâs Gospel on all human behavior.
