[quote=“just_chris”][quote=“triceratopses”][quote=“Confuzius”]They made the first move.
Now its your turn.[/quote]
Perhaps you don’t have experience with girls actually approaching. Did you read the thread? I gave an example. They see you, walk up to you, and quickly steer the conversation to what you are doing later and where you live.
In any case basic reading comprehension indicates this is not an advice thread.
Taiwan girls in my experience prefer to gawk, say sexy or wow as they walk past, instead of actually walk up. In cases where they’re forced to actually be talking to me, they do things like I said in my example. If you think that’s comparable behavior to my experience with non-taiwanese you’re on fucking crack. I’m giving only the mildest examples too, there is way more severe stuff that taiwan girls re willing to do instead of actually approach.[/quote]
You’re also falling under the impression that these girls know or have the English capability to actually have a conversation with you. You have to consider that when they are going to “English School” they’re not learning how to talk to an American so you can date him. They’re learning rinse lather and repeat what day is today, how old are you, where do you live, what is your favorite color type stuff and the chances of them having had an actual conversation with a foreigner outside of that school is pretty slim, sure they’ve all had interactions with us but not an actual conversation.
I found the women in Japan to be much more approachable but in most cases their English was not as good so it’s a real roll of the dice. I guess I’ve never been lucky enough to have had women approach and then gawk at me and then continue to talk to me without me saying anything so I can’t relate (unless you want to count the grenades I’ve jumped on back home to help a buddy out and who wants to talk about that? Not me) But what I do know is that as far as what you’re looking for or wanting to see in Taiwan I wouldn’t hold my breathe waiting for it. Could it happen? Sure but will it? Not likely… it’s just the culture and the fact that most of these girls act years younger than they actually are.[/quote]
My ONE PENNY:
Yup most of the 20 somethings range from quite shy to even more shy and will not usually make the first move. They signal their interest by looking at you, or talking about you with their friends (gaining acceptance from their friends for their interest). In my humble experience, it has been usually the older ones (35 plus) that are more forward and more likely to make an approach and carry the conversation. Especially the divorced ones who are looking for some action. And can see the opportunity.
In all my years in Taiwan, I don’t remember even one time a 20 something girl approached me. They have signaled their interest by looking and watching me, but didn’t approach. Oh i take it back, ONE TIME a 20 something girl made the approach. But that was because she had seen me and talked to me before at a bus stop when we were the only two people there and it started raining and she offered to share her umbrella as there was simply no cover available at that stop. When she saw me at a pool months later she remembered me and came over to say “hi” . I had forgotten her.
Most of the Taiwanese girls will not make the first, overt move. They expect you to make the approach, then if they like you they will happily answer your questions and engage you in further conversation. It’s sometimes as if a wall has come down and they have been looking at you for an hour and finally are happy to chat with you because now they CAN. IF they are not able to carry a conversation in english and you don’t speak mandarin or taiwanese you are most likely out of luck at this point. But for those who can communicate, once you have made your approach the girl has the social carte blanche to continue the conversation and to even offer you her fone number and ask for yours and take it to the next level.
But not looking at you or showing no interest in you does NOT mean they are NOT available too. Once you make an approach they will size you up and decide if they are interested or not.
Taiwanese girls need a reason to talk to you. They are not usually going to , in a social setting that is of a temporal nature, say standing at a bus stop with you , or being in the same MRT car or bus, going to approach you. They may not approach you at clubs either, but may be open to YOUR approach.
I don’t have a lot of experience with girls other than Asian girls so I can’t speak about much of the world’s women. Maybe American girls approach men at clubs much more easily, i don’t know.
But Taiwanese women, you should be “the man” and crack the ice. If they like you, they will show their interest. If they snub you, PASS. One time a young lady who i sat next to on the MRT gave me the iciest response possible when I asked her if the flowers she was carrying were from someone or for someone. So that shut me up quick as her reply was so icy even on that summer day. We rode the next five or so stops in silence. My instant stoppage of further conversation may have taken her slightly by surprise (she may have been prepared to fend off further advances from me) that she actually felt awkward , I suppose , and actually said “tsai chien” to me on her way out at WanFang hospital. She did have the prettiest legs though and the shortest of shorts on (typical TW girl wear in summer) that this old dog simply had to look 
Yeah she may have had her hands full with someone she knew being in the hospital. But she was showing her DIS-interest in me , that was for sure.
You don’t even have to be very overt with your intentions. You can ask for assistance or make innocent comments. Say if you saw a girl you liked sitting close to you at a cafe (it is awkward to move across a whole room of people to come ask ONE girl a dumb question) it would be ok to ask her for some advice. Say something like , "oh excuse me , what is that you ordered? " , “do you know if there is a laundromat around here, i just moved here” . Etc etc.
I sat next to this lady (30s) on the train when I was last in Taiwan in 2012 from Taoyuan to Taipei and I actually was asking a genuine question like “is Panchiao station on the TRA connected at the same station as the HSR”. This gal didn’t know but called up her bud who told her “YES”. And then she showed some interest in me and actively engage me in conversation. I was leaving to go back to America in a few days and was involved already so I didn’t take it further. But i got the impression she was interested in being friends and/or more later. Some people end up marrying people they rode a train with, ya know? Friend of mine did that.
Anyhow, before i get long winded . You will not be as successful with the girls on the rock, if you wait for them to approach you. Much better odds if you approach them.
AS someone said previously , don’t be a woman.
edit: There are differences in behavior between western women and TW women I am sure.
One case:
Sitting at a Starbucks here in the bay area. A white woman, around my age was sitting on one of those leather chairs that Starbucks often have. Fairly close to me but not close enough that conversation with me was mandated.
She struck up a conversation with me on her own. Which she actively engaged in. WE yakked on and on for about an hour then she got a call and was leaving. So since I thought we had a nice conversation, I offered my telephone number so we can reconnect. She was not interested in that.
This was different then what would have happened at a Taipei Starbucks in the same situ, I believe.
A Taiwanese woman who did that (started and engaged me actively in conversation for an hour) would certainly have asked for or at least received my telephone number to reconnect. I feel at least fairly sure about that.
But the American woman just wanted someone to while the time away till she had to do something else. I was just a filler for her for her hour at Starbucks.
Most Taiwanese women would not have engaged in conversation with some stranger at a Starbucks unless they were interested in more then just filling up the time/space continuum.
