The AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread


#442

Take that SXSW.

The Democrat centrists bring up the big guns, the AFL-CIO. Not good for AOC or her GND.

Members of the AFL-CIO’s Energy Committee — Cecil Roberts, president of the United Mine Workers of America, and Lonnie Stephenson, president of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers — said they could not support a proposal that did not address their concerns.

“We will not stand by and allow threats to our members’ jobs and their families’ standard of living go unanswered,” they wrote, according to my colleagues.


#443

Not AOC, but a fellow freshman Democrat Representative (5-Minn), Ilhan Omar.

I think Omar has one life left. One more screw-up and “Democrats are searching for a primary candidate” will change to “Democrats look to redistrict Minnesota’s 5th Congressional District.”

Omar is on even thinner ice than AOC, if that’s possible.


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Pews are relatively new developments. Protestantism introduced them.


#448

Thats a very well written article, digging deep on foreign policy, I suspect she had help on her homework.

Open in private or view the cached version to get around the paywall.

I have a question for @Icon, just for one or two sentences she refers to SA, if you don’t mind I wonder if you might offer any insight into someone that makes this claim.

We do not have the credibility to support those fighting for human rights in Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua if we do not also support those fighting for human rights in Honduras, Guatemala and Brazil.


#449

It does have the feel of a concerted effort.


#450

Yes, reads like it was written by one of Obama’s speechwriters (Favreau? Keenan?), or maybe the guy who wrote Obama’s autobiography. :sunglasses:


#451

Nice one.


#452

The Orthodox traditionally stand, but have long supplied kathismata (sing. kathisma, a kind of wooden box to prop oneself up with, with a little ledge to possibly even sit on) for elderly, infirm, or noble churchgoers.


#453

Interesting. I think Trump should allow her and AOC WH Oval Office access to pitch a proposal for the two state system.

My gut says that she wants it to be done, it deserves to be done, so it would be nice if someone were to, you know…kinda get to that. However, I haven’t read the full OP ED in the NYT.

If these are the new enemy, why not get to know them better?:idunno:


#454

You obviously have not been to the States in quite some time. Nothing going on there suggests that socialism is a threat to the US, or that private business ownership is threatened. These fears are unfounded. You may as well worry an anvil is gonna drop on your head, or the Bills are gonna win a Super Bowl while you’re at it.


#455

The real danger isn’t socialism. The real danger is socialists.

Those people are fucking nuts.


#456

You been to the states lately? Pretty hard to find any socialists. Or socialism. Or communism. Well, except for in the imaginations of alt right chat posters.

Let’s talk about things that exist in the real world.


#458

Have you been on a university campus in the US recently? It’s FAR easier to find Marxist, socialist sympathizers than proponents of capitalism and free markets.

I don’t think that the US is on the verge of becoming a full-on socialist country any time in the near future, but there is absolutely no question on the general direction the country is going… This Green New Deal that virtually every Democratic candidate has voiced support for is not privatization of business in the strict sense, but would, if ever seriously enacted, require an unprecedented amount of top-down control of the economy. It isn’t technically “socialism,” but it’s certainly a HUGE step in that direction.


#459

Yeah, when I was in college there were a bunch of trustafarians handing out Socialist magazines. There was probably a Marxist club. They’ve been around for a while now. I think it’s fairly safe to say that they haven’t made much of an impact, and those people are now likely working for Bank of America.

The only place you could even find a Marxist text is in a Barnes and Noble somewhere.


#460

The guy with the best (so far) chance of emerging as Democrat candidate for POTUS (Sanders), as well as two incoming freshman Democrat members of Congress (Cortez and Tlaib) are members of the Democratic Socialists of America. These recent events suggest that socialism is a threat to the US, and that private business ownership is threatened. The fear that the Democrat party will be taken over by the DSA is well-founded.

You can choose to worry about anvils and the Bills if you like, but old-fashioned nationalization of industry and state ownership of the means of production are increasing in popularity by leaps and bounds. Especially among millennials.


#461

Some people don’t feel threatened by affordable health care. For example, Taiwanese expats that have jian bao cards.


#462

I do have to admit I’m opening up to this wall idea, especially after another mass shooting by violent white supremacists. I’m gonna ring up AOC and propose she builds a wall around red states and make them pay for it. They’ll finally stop mooching US tax dollars that way, and we’ll all be a little safer.