The Iran Thread

Now the president of Iran asks for the relocation of Israel to Germany and Austria.

Gave him quite a few headlines.

Maybe Germans will slooooowly understand that blaming US, when they have diplomatic tensions with Iran, is not really a wise thing.

BobJawoll

spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0 … 36,00.html (GERMAN only)

The new pres sure enjoys digging up old ideas, doesn’t he?
Can’t expect much else from reactionaries, I suppose.

Hmmmm… I have read that East Germany kinda empties itself, as more and more people move to the west.

Wouldn’t mind exchanging Hoyerswerda for Tel Aviv, if they keep all the Palestianians down there :wink:

[PC disclaimer: (to certain posters) yeeeeees, Palestinanians are a fine bunch of people, well-mannered and educated Gentlemen and women, I am just talking about the problem of having them and Israelis hanging around at the same time. So please keep your PC comments where the sun ain’t gonna shine :wink: ]

Yes, Holocaust deniers are all alike- of course they know that the Holocaust actually happened; they just deny on the ground that it puts their anti-semitism outside the pale of political discourse. They deny it happened the first time because they want it to happen again.

All the same, there is a point here- “We are really sorry what happened to the Jews; and to compensate them we’re going to give them somebody else’s land.”

Why not Bavaria or Saxony? If you’re really sincere, how about Burgundy or Sussex or New Jersey or New Brunswick? The Palestinians didn’t do anything to the Jews in Europe- it’s very easy to compensate for your sins at someone else’s expense.

Iranian President Bans Western Music

Banning Kenny G doesn’t sound like such a bad idea…

Obviously the country is tip-toeing towards Taliban Afghanistan-like circumstances now. More touble is brooding. For others and themselves.

Who likes Suliban… um … Taliban

[quote=“Jaboney”]The new pres sure enjoys digging up old ideas, doesn’t he?
Can’t expect much else from reactionaries, I suppose.[/quote]

Since Canada has an embassy in Iran, why doesn’t Canada actually [i]do[/i] something? Or are you worried the Israelis are going to move to BC? Well, if they do, at least you’ll finally have a [i]real[/i] military. :laughing:

dfait-maeci.gc.ca/world/emba … ssy-en.asp

cbc.ca/story/world/national/ … 51216.html

[quote=“bob_honest”]Obviously the country is tip-toeing towards Taliban Afghanistan-like circumstances now. More touble is brooding. For others and themselves.

Who likes Suliban… um … Taliban

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Well, they do need to purify before going to war. Maybe we should just awash their PCs with porn and get them shut down for a while. See how THEY do absorbing CNN all news, all the times. :wink:

[quote=“Comrade Stalin”]Since Canada has an embassy in Iran, why doesn’t Canada actually [i]do[/i] something? Or are you worried the Israelis are going to move to BC? Well, if they do, at least you’ll finally have a [i]real[/i] military. :laughing:

What would you like us to do? The military option isn’t likely to solve much, so I don’t mind having that taken off the table at the outset.

Am I worried that the Israelis might move to BC? No. Why would I be worried about that? BC’s got a great mix of people. Not a whole lot of Jewish people, nor Arabs, though there is a growing Muslim population (including within my extended family). But Montreal’s Hasidic community is in decline, and Arabs now out number Jews in Montreal, so if they decide to pull up stakes I hope that a few will settle there as well, just to keep that community and history alive.

And with our comparatively tranquil history, and peaceful relations with the neighbours, why would they need to be armed to the teeth? Might be interesting to see what the Israelis can do to rediscover some of their early promise, given the security they’ve always lacked.

It’s only too bad that Canada’s past record of welcoming all refugees and immigrants (and in particular, Jews during and leading up to WWII) is so poor.

Too bad we’re still doing less than we ought to… but I don’t (yet) craft government policy. Nonetheless, it’s possible that one day I’ll have a hand in things… so, is there anyone else to whom you’d like us to open our doors?

(btw, that’s not an open door invite, such as Castro had so much fun with at your expense.)

[quote=“Jaboney”][quote=“Comrade Stalin”]Since Canada has an embassy in Iran, why doesn’t Canada actually [i]do[/i] something? Or are you worried the Israelis are going to move to BC? Well, if they do, at least you’ll finally have a [i]real[/i] military. :laughing:

What would you like us to do? The military option isn’t likely to solve much, so I don’t mind having that taken off the table at the outset.[/quote]

You don’t have a military option because you don’t exactly [i]have[/i] a military. Other countries do have that option and will probably end up having to exercise that option.

I fully expect Canada to carp, whine and feel self-righteous no matter what happens…

True.

[quote=“Comrade Stalin”] Other countries do have that option and will probably end up
having to
exercise that option.[/quote]
Disagree. I expect that someone will end up deciding to, but it doesn’t follow that they have to.

That’s nice.
The weather’s nice today too. A little cool this morning, but rather lovely now. What do you think? Far better to be out enjoying it, rather than inside pounding on the keyboard and furrowing one’s brow. Right, I’m convinced… I’m off to enjoy it. Hope you do as well.

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And, in an interesting twist . . . “The Turkish government has also been given the “green light” to strike camps of the separatist Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in Iran on the day in question.”

That should go over well with our Kurdish “friends” in northern Iraq.

Iran is about to execute a woman, who had been violated and killed her attacker in self-defense. The “judges” said they want to constitute an “example [case], so no woman ever dares to raise the hand against a man again.”

spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,395085,00.html GERMAN only

The articles mentions another woman, where the court had even acknowleged she acted in self-defense (case Norouzi) but STILL sentenced her to death, for the reason stated above.
Had not been carried out for international restistance (Human Rights organizations). So I guess still in prison (not mentioned in article).

NOW Mullah logic: IF the woman defends herself, she gets death penalty.
BUT if she does not resist against a man, she commits adultery and …
gets the death penalty.

So whenever a woman is under such sexual motivated attack, she is bound for the gallows.

Further mentioned: two minor boys had been executed for drinking alocohol and homosexual practise.

The third time somebody gets caught drinking alcohol, he is … off to the gallows.

Iran. Taliban. All the same madness.

// some years ago people thought it will get more liberal by itself. Sigh

Can anybody honestly translate what the Iranian leader was trying to say the other day? What I got out of it was because they have had culture since forever (which is true) they have no need to build a nuclear weapon.

What does one have to do with the other? And has anybody asked them why they need nuclear energy so badly when they sit on top of the biggest oil reserves in the world? Finally is the weather in Canada really as nice as Jaboney makes it out to be? :wink:

Iran will establish a world summit of Holocaust deniers

cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/ … holocaust/

John Irving and the whole bunch of idiots will be there.

Will the Iran president hold an opening speech?

All idiots on one spot.

Mossad, do you read me?

… all on one spot
Let’s improve the gene pool

[quote=“Comrade Stalin”][quote=“Jaboney”]The new pres sure enjoys digging up old ideas, doesn’t he?
Can’t expect much else from reactionaries, I suppose.[/quote]

Since Canada has an embassy in Iran, why doesn’t Canada actually [i]do[/i] something? 6.html[/quote]

Last time I heard anything about our embassy in Iran, it was the people inside risking their lives to save Americans.

Reacting to Iran’s nuclear threat, the French president has announced a change in his countires nuclear doctrine.

spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0 … 51,00.html GERMAN only

Following the idea that the old French nuclear doctrine of total destruction of the enemy instead of limited strikes will not work against a country only threatening to build a weapon.

Erasing Iran is certainly not a sane option now.

BUT a limited nuclear strike against a 99% ready nuclear weapon of a “madman” country is possible now. French Force de Frappe would have been adjusted accordingly.

To answer a threat against France or its allies.

Vive la France, about time to hear that from Europe.

Some Iran information.

[quote]A Web Witness to Iranian Brutality
By Anne Applebaum, Friday, January 20, 2006; Page A17

Enter the Web site: abfiran.org/ . Click on “Omid: A Memorial,” and then “Search.” Enter a name – or a religion, a nationality, an alleged crime. One by one, the stories will transfix you.

Atefeh Rajabi , a 16-year-old schoolgirl: Executed by hanging in Neka, Aug. 15, 2004, for “acts incompatible with chastity.”

Azizullah Gulshani : Executed by the state in Mashad , April 29, 1982, for “promoting the dirty, non-Islamic sect of Bahaism.”

Ali Akbar Tabatabai : Executed by extrajudicial shooting in Maryland, July 23, 1980, for an “unknown revolutionary offense.”

Many of the entries are frustrating. There is “no information on this case,” or else the information – from official sources, exile groups, human rights groups – is sparse. Dates are missing, photographs are missing, and although the site has English and Farsi links to nearly 10,000 political victims of the Islamic Republic of Iran, thousands more haven’t even been entered yet.

But this, say Ladan and Roya Boroumand, is only the beginning: Their “Omid” Web site, named for the word “hope” in Farsi, is a living project that will expand as relatives of the victims of the Iranian Islamic regime add to it, correct it, change it. The launch today – on the 25th anniversary of the Iranian students’ release of American hostages – is in part a bid for the support and the readers they need to expand the site further. It’s also a bid for successors. “If the regime kills us,” explains Ladan matter-of-factly, “we hope someone else will take up the task.” (more at link)
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02494.html[/quote]

Iran may be expecting sanctions and assets frozen soon -

[quote]Iran reportedly moving money out of Europe

TEHRAN, Jan. 20 (UPI) – Iran has reportedly begun moving its assets from European banks in an effort to protect its supplies of foreign exchange from sanctions.

“We transfer foreign currency reserves related to all sectors including oil foreign exchanges to wherever it is good for us and we have started this transfer,” Ebrahim Sheibani, governor of Iran’s central bank, told the Iranian Student News Agency.

The International Atomic Energy Authority has scheduled a meeting Feb. 2 to discuss whether to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council. The country could face sanctions for re-starting its uranium enrichment program.
upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?S … 0930-4759r[/quote]