US Sec of State Certifies Hong Kong No Longer Autonomous

[Belgian_Pie]

@tommy525

So much for China’s promise of 50 years no change

Everyone fell for that!

[Marco]

@ForeignLaowai

I think the strategic reason for HK riots was to ignite…

Protests. They’re protests. Not riots.

[chilifries]

@Andrew0409

American Military News – 28 May 20

US, UK, Canada and Australia sign joint statement condemning China’s takeover…

Top foreign policy officials for the U.S., U.K., Australia and Canada issued a joint statement Thursday, condemning China for its plans to extend strict national security controls over the city of Hong Kong, once viewed as semi-autonomous. The…

Unfortunately China be like…

[DesiInTaipei]

Well the UK gets a taste of it’s own medicine. For centuries the British perfected the art of making promises for their own gain and then reneging on them when convenient.

While I don’t like the communists, they owe nothing to the hegemonic and lying UK. In any case, the UK today has no strength to say or do anything. Serves them right.

[MikeN1]

@ForeignLaowai

Chinese have a hateful passive aggressive personality.

All 1.3 billion of them?

[MikeN1]

@ForeignLaowai

I think the strategic reason for HK protests was to ignite mainlander hatred towards Cantonese speakers inside China. Cantonese are not really Chinese, they were invaded by China back in the day. DNA studies show majority of HK men have Han Chinese DNA while women retain DNA of local tribes remotely related to Austronesians (Vietnamese etc…), as is the language. Which goes to show Han Chinese killed off all the males in these tribes back in the day and took their women.

Your understanding of genetics is somewhat lacking.Males don’t inherit DNA from their fathers while women inherit from their mothers, for a start. Plus Vietnamese is not Austronesian, it is Austroasiatic (Mon-Khmer), a separate language family.

[owleyes]

@MikeN1

At time of handover, HK was 20% of China’s GDP. Now it’s 3%.

Any news link for that?

[Kiwi1]

@DesiInTaipei

Good. Hopefully one day some former colony will rule Britain for a century, loot and plunder them and teach them what it was to do it to others. And yes … not even apologize for it.

Maybe one day there will be a placard outside a restaurant in London saying “dogs and britishers not allowed”

What on earth is wrong with you?

[DesiInTaipei]

Why? You find something offensive in what I wrote? Maybe you should read history.

[tommy525]

Well considering Hong Kong island was forced from the Chinese Emporer and the New Territories a 99 year lease
The UK when China did not agree to a new lease decided no point to keep HK island by itself and that was that

Nobody lost face
The lease is up and the tenant has to vacate

The UK was smart to exact some sort of face saving gesture from the CCP about keeping HK as it is

And now that the CCP chooses to change it, it’s mud on the CCP

The UK has washed its hands of HK

China would have been smarter to sign another lease for say 10 billion a year to keep the mutually beneficial existence of a HK

[Marco]

@DesiInTaipei

Well the UK gets a taste of it’s own medicine. For centuries the British perfected the art of making promises for their own gain and then reneging on them when convenient.

While I don’t like the communists, they owe nothing to the hegemonic and lying UK. In any case, the UK today has no strength to say or do anything. Serves them right.

@DesiInTaipei

Why? You find something offensive in what I wrote? Maybe you should read history.

In learning from history and their mistakes, people residing in democratic countries of today prefer not to go to war and to use their words to create agreements on equal footing and abide by the agreements made. Two wrongs don’t make a right and even in history, we should learn from our mistakes and not repeat them. Should we all do an eye for an eye?

The people of history are dead. We only can control ourselves. We either continue playing the same shitty games we did for most of history or we grow up as adults and work towards creating a better future. If you don’t honour your agreements then don’t be surprised when nobody trusts you. Retribution towards people by people not involved in happenings 100 years ago helps nobody.

Secondly, the people of Hong Kong are relying on the good word of the Communist Party to not change anything and institute of universal suffrage. It’s China’s territory, it doesn’t hurt the UK. This isn’t retribution to the UK. It only hurts the good people of Hong Kong.

The people who dished out the medicine are dead. The people who should be receiving the proverbial medicine are dead. I was born in the 80s. I have no involvement in anything before the 80s.

[Kiwi1]

@DesiInTaipei

Why? You find something offensive in what I wrote? Maybe you should read history

I’ve read plenty of history.

For what it’s worth I’ve written a fair bit of it.

So take your idiotic comments and shove them.

[Kiwi1]

As for Britain and Hong Kong’s situation. . .

Look around the world and the Britain’s former colonies massively over-represented among the world’s successful democracies with good legal systems, good records on human rights, etc. Most of these places became independent with no or minimal resistance from Britain.

Hong Kong would be one of those free and sovereign countries but for the Chinese Communist Party and its threats to invade to prevent democracy or independence. It’s fairly simple.

[Marco]

@DesiInTaipei

Good. Hopefully one day some former colony will rule Britain for a century, loot and plunder them and teach them what it was to do it to others. And yes … not even apologize for it.

Maybe one day there will be a placard outside a restaurant in London saying “dogs and britishers not allowed”

Have you actually experienced colonisation?

[Andrew0409]

Hard to argue against that HK was better off as a colony than with the CCP.

[ForeignLaowai]

@MikeN1

All 1.3 billion of them?

You seem not to know Chinese. If you know 1, you can basically predict the actions and behaviour of 99 more. They all act like carbon copies.

[ForeignLaowai]

@tommy525

Well considering Hong Kong island was forced from the Chinese Emporer and the New Territories a 99 year lease
The UK when China did not agree to a new lease decided no point to keep HK island by itself and that was that

Well considering the CCP doesn’t have crap to do with the imperial Chinese government the UK might as well have negotiated the lease end with Taiwan.

There is no lease end if the landlord is dead.

[tommy525]

They could have negotiated a new lease with the ROC in Taiwan but that would not have addressed the very big elephant in the room

If the landlord of the place you rented died you can’t really expect the house will become yours

Unless such time has passed you can claim squatters rights

Still doesn’t address the very big elephant in the room though

[tommy525]

@DesiInTaipei

Why? You find something offensive in what I wrote? Maybe you should read history.

We should all do our best to not let history repeat itself

[DesiInTaipei]

@Marco

Should we all do an eye for an eye?

Should we apologize for our past mistakes? Should we attempt to right the wrongs atleast by words ?

The British have never bothered doing that. So yes they do deserve equal treatment in the future from a past colony.

And then, 200 years later; that colony can claim “oh but that’s history now”.