I also like The Crown.
Brings back a lot of childhood memories. Fun to watch.
YouTube is my TV now!
Re: The Crown: Iām not sure I can handle Gillian Anderson as Margaret Thatcher. Iāve heard in reviews that sheās fantastic, but itās a weird mix of one of the first political ābad guysā of my life with one of my first actress-crushes. Itād be as cognitively jarring as, I dunno, fat Johnny Rotten in a MAGA hat or something like that.
Oh wait.
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Gillian Anderson is sooooooooo good in everything she plays.
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Oh, absolutely. But someone I adore playing someone I pretty much came of age disliking ā¦ I dunno. Weird for my brain. Itās not quite the same as an actor playing an historical figure for me, because I very much remember Thatcherās time in power.
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Wait, what? Really?
I guess, maybe I can see itā¦
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Character of an insanely intelligent kick-ass scientist / FBI agent, and gorgeous? Oh yeah, you bet.
(If Beverly Crusher had been written better, sheād probably have taken the place that Scully later took in my heart, but despite its best efforts, ST: TNG didnāt do well with its women characters.)
Not sure who that is. I know agent skully. The x files was good. I donāt think she was particularly sexy. Just curious, I donāt see it
Star trek? Never watched itā¦ Iām out.
Captain Janeway?
I always found her acting to be quite woodenā¦
Homeland season 8 is one of the best.
That era of Trek definitely got better with women characters in later series: good stuff with Dax & Kira in DS9, and with Janeway, Seven of Nine, and Belanna in Voyager. But Troi and Crusher were, sadly, often given poor stories and the writers didnāt seem to know quite what to do with them beyond the latest alien romance story.
Or if you mean a late-teen crush on Janeway, nah, probably not. Good character, and got better, but thatād be too much like falling for the boss.
I just did a quick check and was surprised that Gates McFadden is six years older than Kate Mulgrew - I guess it was the captain thing, but Crusher always seemed quite a bit younger than Janeway, rather than roughly the same age during their series. Or, to bring things back around, maybe Janewayās early-season hair was subconsciously reminding me of Thatcher.
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Okay Trekkiesā¦Just finished catching up with Discovery and am 3 epis in on Enterprise. Never watched DS9 or Voyager and maybe only half a dozen Next Gens.
I am gonna go thru them all over the next few monthsā¦my question is:
What order should I watch them in?
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tng, ds9, voyager I think
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So, continue with Enterprise, then that?
the ācorrectā chronological order is something like: enterprise, star trek original series, tng, ds9, voyager, discovery
although Iām not too sure if voyager or ds9 comes first or at about the same time
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Well, Discovery predates Kirk and then zooms waaaay past everything
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I started watching āMiami Viceā on that HITS channel of old shows. I thought Itād be corny since itās almost 40 years old, but itās actually pretty damn awesome. Early 80s Miami is a pastel trip.
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Choice 1: Are you a completionist determined to watch them all? In that case, since youāve already started Enterprise, watch that one through, then original series (and then animated series if youāve really gone off the deep end!), then Next Generation, then Deep Space Nine, then Voyager. Oh, then Picard. That follows the order āin universeā, although some of the continuity will get a bit confusing: they havenāt invented the Federation or I think even Starfleet yet for much of Season 1 of the original series, for example; āwe the audienceā are supposed to recognize some of the bad guys in Enterprise, when the characters in the show donāt have a clue.
Footnote for the hardcore: Voyager and Deep Space Nine take place at the same time, but at opposite ends of the galaxy. On very rare occasions story elements overlap. Iām sure if you look on Reddit you can find ācorrect chonologicalā watching orders with those episodes alternating. Same thing for the last season or two of Next Generation and the beginning of Deep Space Nine. But those details are for those who try to rearrange Star Wars films so you can somehow watch Empire without being āspoiledā on the identity of Lukeās father.
Iām not sure where Lower Decks fits in. It hasnāt shown up legally in Taiwan yet.
I suspect a lot of people would say Enterprise is the weakest of the lot, and therefore perhaps the worst to start with, but heck, if youāre already running with it, keep going! Itās the only series Iāve never watched. And, um, DS9 and Next Generation are a tough slog in the first couple of seasons, so ā¦ good luck. The most common opinion seems to be that TNG and DS9 start weak, and get really good; Voyager starts weak, and gets, um, better; Enterprise starts weak, eventually shows a lot of really interesting promise, and then gets cancelled. Original series starts incredibly strong and then goes batshit insane (insane in the Spockās brain ā¦) in the third and final season.
Choice 2: If youāre testing the waters and want to see if youāre going to like the universe or not: go to the beginning of Season 3 of Star Trek: The Next Generation, and just start there. Anything before that can be easily filled in; this was before most TV shows cared about story arcs.
Choice 3: If you want to pick and choose from what connects with Discovery, watch the original seriesā āThe Menagerieā (Captain Pike and the telepath planet) and āMirror Mirrorā (mirror universe); Iāve heard thereās also a good Enterprise episode thatās an origin story for the Terran Empire of the mirror universe.
(Discovery has done a fantastic job with Pike - I grew up watching the original series, and have seen āThe Menagerieā many, many times, but boy it packs a lot more of a wallop now.)
Iām curious to hear how this works for you. I grew up watching the original series, and the 80s-90s was at a time when a season of TV was overstuffed, and had a lot of not-so-good episodes. I have no idea how shows like these are going to hold up for someone watching them the first time now.
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