Who is Christian?


#470

We’ve been looking for you!


#473

#474

fify


#475

Maybe you should email them with this major revelation. I’m sure they’ll be plenty embarrassed that they’ve been doing it wrong.


#476

No comment. :slight_smile:


#477

This just in:


#478

belief is key is it not?


#479

I’m a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (a Mormon). I’m a Christian.

I recognize many other Christians don’t accept that I am a Christian and I realize it boils down to a disagreement on definition.

We call ourselves Christian because we believe that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten of God, the Father. He is our Savior. He created the Earth. He is the central figure in God’s plan for us.

Most Christian denominations do not call us Christian because we reject the trinitarian-concept of the Godhead…an idea that was introduced at least a century after Christ’s death and not widely accepted until the Nicean Creed in the 4th century.

In a sense, you can call my religion polytheistic, but while we recognize the existence of more than one god, we recognize and worship only God, our Father, as the Supreme Being.

We believe in the Bible and strongly believe that our belief system is much more consistent with the Bible than trinitarian Christian faiths. In my view, numerous biblical references attest to the idea that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are separate entities, but united as one in purpose.

The idea of the trinity did not exist during the first century after Christ’s death. It was widely accepted that Christ was not coequal with God, the Father, but subordinate to him. The idea that they are coequal is, in my reading of the Bible, not supported by the bibilical text. There are certainly many statements of their “oneness,” but Christ explained this oneness in his prayer recorded in John 17. That prayer contains the following statements:

"And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."

Then while praying for his disciples, Christ said:

"that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me."

"The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one,"

It seems to me, and to others of my faith, that Christ is explaining here how God, the Father, Himself, and the Holy Spirit are one. If his notion of “one” is the same as the trinitarian notion, why would he pray that we can all be one “just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you?” Is he suggesting that we can all become part of the Trinity God? Or is he suggesting that The Father and Christ are united in purpose and intent and that we can also be united with them in this purpose? The latter seems to be the likely intention.


#480

“President Vladimir Putin has warned of possible bloodshed.”

I bet he did.