Have you ever been to Richmond?
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Gain
January 11, 2023, 9:40am
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So one town with many Taiwanese immigrants = there are many Taiwanese immigrants everywhere?
Check the stats.
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TT
January 11, 2023, 10:51am
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Taking a quick look at Wikipedia, the number of overseas Vietnamese is just over 5 million, compared to almost 2 million overseas Taiwanese
So, based on your logic, we should expect to see 1 Taiwanese restaurant for every 3 Vietnamese restaurants
But of course, the logic is flawed. Once again you are taking a complex issue and boiling it down to a single factor.
Size of diaspora isnāt the only thing. What about the reasons people go? Their demographics? How do they enjoy the food where they go?
And of course, how much do they miss the food they left behind?
And of course, how many people visit that country and enjoy the food?
And how much do the people in the host country enjoy the food? How well can it be adapted?
Just looking at the number of overseas people is only a piece of the puzzle.
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Gain
January 11, 2023, 10:54am
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That number is an overblown estimate. Many of those āoverseas Taiwaneseā just own a ROC passport and donāt have much connection with Taiwan.
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TT
January 11, 2023, 10:56am
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Show us some better stats, then. You brought it up
Give us the numbers on Taiwanese and Vietnamese restaurants, while youāre at it
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Another interesting tidbit is that when Taiwanese immigrate to the U.S. and open restaurants, they often donāt sell Taiwanese food. Theyāre not dumb, after all.
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TT
January 11, 2023, 11:00am
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Sure. I would also hazard a guess that they have the capital and education to have better opportunities, or at least better things to do, than opening restaurants.
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Gain:
Check the stats.
Check the stats!!!
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Overseas Taiwanese Total population
1,944,178
Regions with significant populations
United States 1,002,000[1]
Indonesia 632,000[2]
Peopleās Republic of China 404,000[3]
Thailand 290,200[1]
Brazil 90,000[1]
Canada 128,885[4]
Japan 303,000[1]
Vietnam 99,350[1]
Singapore 81,000[5]
Australia 190,020[4]
Malaysia 340,090[1]
Brunei 63,000[1]
Philippines 99,000
South Korea 31,000
Costa Rica 69,000[1]
France 89,500[1]
Argentina 68,000[1]
New Zealand 89,000[1]
South Africa 75,000[1]
Germany 45,000[1]
United Kingdom 96,000[6]
Vietnamese has more but not by that much relative to the popularity of Pho restaurants. Overseas Vietnamese - Wikipedia
Canada has 240000 overseas Vietnamese, which is double the overseas Taiwanese. Vietnamese has 100X more restaurants.
Thatās because the demographic to which you are referring was predominantly waisheng led, who had much easier access to passports and mobility at that time.
Guy
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izzy
January 12, 2023, 12:11am
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Or they call it Chinese food, so people dont come in and ask how come there is no pad thai.
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izzy
January 12, 2023, 12:15am
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i agree, even an average banmi is better than lets say a subway sandwich or Qburger level food.
breakfast places are hit or miss, i have a few i prefer and frequently eat in, but private owner, not chain ones.
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izzy
January 12, 2023, 12:17am
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True, and the ones that did immigrate and became cooks are now dead or retired. their kids are all doctor / lawyer / engineer.
we will see the same with VN immigrants in 30 years.
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Explant
January 12, 2023, 1:41am
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Gain:
Check the stats.
Check the stats!!!
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Øēč³čØē¶²::: (archive.org)
Overseas Taiwanese Total population
1,944,178
Regions with significant populations
United States 1,002,000[1]
Indonesia 632,000[2]
Peopleās Republic of China 404,000[3]
Thailand 290,200[1]
Brazil 90,000[1]
Canada 128,885[4]
Japan 303,000[1]
Vietnam 99,350[1]
Singapore 81,000[5]
Australia 190,020[4]
Malaysia 340,090[1]
Brunei 63,000[1]
Philippines 99,000
South Korea 31,000
Costa Rica 69,000[1]
France 89,500[1]
Argentina 68,000[1]
New Zealand 89,000[1]
South Africa 75,000[1]
Germany 45,000[1]
United Kingdom 96,000[6]
Vietnamese has more but not by that much relative to the popularity of Pho restaurants. Overseas Vietnamese - Wikipedia
Canada has 240000 overseas Vietnamese, which is double the overseas Taiwanese. Vietnamese has 100X more restaurants.
Thatās just cause the Taiwanese in Canada are mostly selling some sort of pretend Chinese mush in order to get citizenship easily
Apparently thereās more than a million Taiwanese living in china
I suspect these numbers have changed quite a bit recently, almost certainly downward.
Guy
Thatās due more to supply than demand.
There was a time when the only jobs available to ethnic Chinese was in restaurants or laundromats. Now, Taiwanese have more options.
tempogain
Split this topic
January 13, 2023, 6:26am
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Taiwanese restaurants headed by professional chefs have been trending in the US for the past few years. Itās not difficult to find a good Taiwanese restaurant in most US cities.
At this new restaurant in Greenpoint, the chef Eric Sze serves comforting dishes inspired by what he grew up eating in Taipei, andĀ by what he cooks at home, such as Huadiao Shrimp, fried rice topped with pork collar, and BDSM Chicken.
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fumarole:
BDSM Chicken.
say what?
Some guy on a Taiwanese food FB forum said General Tsoās chicken is the second most popular dish in the USA behind pizza.